2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI'm a criminal defense attorney, let me tell you why Comey did this. (You'll feel better)
Last edited Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:07 AM - Edit history (13)
***Update***
La Times has the best characterization of why Comey did what he did, and it is consistent with my original post below. There's nothing there, he's simply covering his butt.
The emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered, the official said, but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them.
Because Comey had told Congress that the FBI had finished investigating Clintons server, he felt he needed to let lawmakers know that agents were looking into the case again in light of the recent discovery, the official said.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-story.html
The way the press initially handled this story is unforgivable.
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Original Post:
Comey knows that Hillary is going to win the election. He knows that Rs in the House will very likely rake him over the coals in endless Benghazi like hearings. Comey testified under oath to Congress that he would reopen--or at a minimum reconsider--the investigation should he get additional information. He also testified that if there is a referral from Congress regarding Clinton's untruthful disclosure to FBI that he could open an investigation vis her FBI interview.
Somebody in the know dropped some emails in the FBIs lap recently. (Was it merely a routine disclosure from the Weiner investigation? Maybe, but I'm not buying it. The timing of all this makes me believe that this was not just an innocent 11th hour discovery.)
This puts Comey in a box. He testified under oath that he would relook at things if more information comes to light--so basically he's in legal trouble (perjury allegation) if he doesn't. This is confirmed by Comey's own memo to FBI employees.
Comey said he felt an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-director-james-b-comey-under-fire-for-his-controversial-decision-on-the-clinton-email-inquiry/2016/10/28/fbad009c-9d57-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_comey-810pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Further, if he didn't send the letter he sent today, he would be accused of political collusion with the Clintons. He's covering his ass. Plain and simple. He has bristled at the allegation that he is acting in a partisan way, and this (nothing-burger) letter is his attempt to get back to some type of perceived neutrality in advance of his anticipated testimony to Congress. Imagine if he didn't send the letter. You can just see Gowdy screaming at him, "So you had these additional emails and you kept them a secret until AFTER the election!"
My legal advice to people here is to take a deep breath. This letter is classic CYA. It's designed to protect Comey, and that's it. If he had the goods on Clinton the shoe would have dropped today. Mark Cuban's explanation that Huma was simply printing emails for HRC bears this out. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512552937
PS, watch for any and all oppo that the Clintons have to be released today and tomorrow in advance of the Sunday shows. Anything they have on Trump will come out now. The best defense is a good offense. Let's all strap in and kick this orange bastard's corpulent ass.
Couple people have asked about what the oppo probably is. Here's my best speculative shot..
Absolutely no way someone as careless as Donald Trump has not been surreptitiously audio recorded. In the modern era, everybody has a smart phone. Odds are its an attractive contract vendor who was not required to sign a non-disclosure contract. You can guess what would be in the recording.
Is that legal, you ask? New York's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. New York makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on an in-person or telephone conversation unless one party to the conversation consents. N.Y. Penal Law §§ 250.00, 250.05. So, while I'm not licensed in New York, if the party recording was in the room, the answer is pretty much it looks to be legal.
The person with the recording has probably already consulted with an attorney, found out that it wasn't illegal to make the tape, and they are ready to drop it. Now's the time my friend. The address to the Washington Post is --- The Washington Post, 1301 K Street NW, Washington DC 20071
PPS: Still don't feel better? Take a look at the prediction markets hours after the story dropped. http://predictwise.com/
We're gonna be fine people. We are on the right side of history.
Quick CYA footnote: A person could read this and think that I'm apologizing for Comey. I'm not. What he has done is despicable and unforgivable. At the time I originally posted this all I knew was the letter Comey wrote and that's that. People were freaking out about the (now debunked) reporting that Comey had "reopened" the investigation. I originally wrote my post because I knew that Comey felt he had legal exposure due to his prior congressional testimony and this was not the opening act of a criminal charge contra Clinton. I thought this might make people feel better.
My speculation regarding oppo was noted as speculation. I'm a hard core partisan Democrat. I can have hopes too, no?
ncgrits
(916 posts)Farmgirl1961
(1,643 posts)And can you give any hints about stuff they might have on Trump????? c'mon, we've all been through hell today and need a little good cheer!
tenaciousdem
(104 posts)I'm feeling better already and the clarity on this deeply, troubling, matter, is greatly appreciated....
Farmgirl1961
(1,643 posts)n/t
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,165 posts)reasonabletexan
(40 posts)StevieM
(10,556 posts)upon your arrival.
How do you feel about the Astros switching to the AL? Personally, I hate the thought of teams switching leagues, and I still don't like the Brewers in the NL either.
Then again, I still haven't warmed to inter-league play.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)the politics of Houston and I try not to fly through it if possible. It's humid and filled with fracking Republicans. I also can't stand Nolan Ryan's politics (although he wasn't for Cruz, which is something.) As such, I have nothing positive to say about the Astros. But, seeing that the Red Sox are 24W to 12L against them, I'm generally supportive of the move. \
Thanks for welcoming me!
Raine1967
(11,620 posts)Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)StevieM
(10,556 posts)I got sidetracked with other things, but I was going to come back to this thread specifically to welcome you to DU.
That post you replied to was to another poster, who also just joined DU. I asked him about the Astros because his avatar image was of the Astros.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I HATE AL BASEBALL!
If there's a designated hitter, it's not real baseball. According to me.
StevieM
(10,556 posts)I miss the days when their was no inter-league play, when the AL and NL had different strike zones and even had their own sets of umpires.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)yellowcanine
(36,354 posts)Particularly given that Chaffetz chose to immediately politicize it by saying that the investigation was "reopened."
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)okaawhatever
(9,560 posts)letters yesterday from Comey. I'm betting they've been working with right wing media to define the narrative. (Including of course the re-opening bit).
Yeah, they've had a day on this one. Interesting if anyone asks them why they didn't release the info yesterday.
regnaD kciN
(26,668 posts)Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)old guy
(3,297 posts)lillypaddle
(9,605 posts)on MSNBC earlier. He said that with Trump's continued harping on "rigged election/system," he had no choice but to let it be known he was looking into the matter. I'm sure Steny was spinning it, but it is believable. And no way the investigation will be finished in time for the election. Most people don't give a shit and are sick and tired of the email BS.
wishstar
(5,512 posts)Sounds like a dirty trick behind the scenes where someone is trying to screw around for political reasons.
The previous State Dept/FBI phony non-pay to play attempted "scandal" that was publicized a couple of weeks ago also turned about to be much ado about nothing that the media jumped on too fast and misinterpreted and then dropped when there was no "there" there.
Sorceress
(310 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,592 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Lochloosa
(16,464 posts)DeminPennswoods
(16,375 posts)mercuryblues
(15,359 posts)to keep the stupid fuckers from mis-representing what happened. He knew they would jump on this like flies on shit and lie about it.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)yardwork
(64,968 posts)I understand the cya aspect of the letter, but this was done in a way designed to maximize drama and give media lots of room for speculation and innuendo.
The head of the FBI should have better judgment.
SharonClark
(10,379 posts)Raine1967
(11,620 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)So yes, I expect them to move on this. Buckle up!
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)world wide wally
(21,835 posts)the GOP's.
We definitely do need to "drain the swamp" in Washington and it starts with the House of Representatives and the Senate.
jonno99
(2,620 posts)Cattledog
(6,434 posts)rationality goes to the wayside esp. amongst uninformed voters.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)WheelWalker
(9,226 posts)description of Hermann Goering.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)czarjak
(12,563 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Trump is dancing a jig and chortling about how he was right, and Comey gets a pass. There was no hard information revealed, only a hint of an implied scandal in the works. If Comey was compelled to notify congress then he should have waited until he had actual details to determine what was important rather than setting off a 5 alarm fire over wild speculation.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)moonscape
(5,428 posts)Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)ArnoldLayne
(2,180 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)So Comey covered his ass by hanging Hillary's out to dry in the wind.
Don't tell me he didn't know that this would create a political firestorm that will burn all weekend. He dumped it late friday...that was also on purpose.
If he is an innocent party in all this i expect him to hold an immediate press conference to refute the claims by Trump and the news media that the email investigation has been reopened.
If he lets the fire burn all weekend I say he did it in collusion with republicans in DC and the Trump campaign!
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)But to me I don't believe that they are. If the emails were actionable 1) he would know it and wouldn't have to be so amiguous about it and 2) he wouldn't have dropped the letter this way. He would have had a news conference on a Monday and spelled out why he is officially "reopening" the investigation. He didn't do that today. I personally think that the Friday drop is evidence of that there's no there there.
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)(and welcome to DU)
p.s. I joined not long ago and nobody has asked me any are-you-a-bot-or-are-you-not questions.
Plus -- if you know of a software program that could write a post like yours, I would REALLY like to see the code for it -- professional interest, as a software developer myself. (spoiler alert: Can't be done.)
Welcome. Sincerely.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)What a ridiculous day yesterday was. Hopefully the press will wake up refreshed and sane.
calimary
(84,858 posts)I think the Anthony Weiner angle just turned the whole thing cheap and tawdry, and let the air out of the balloon. Which WOULD be reassuring unless you consider how vicious and relentless the Hillary haters are. And they are legion. We who admire and support her do outnumber them. But they unfortunately remain a force to be reckoned with. Guaranteed they'll try to make the most of this, even if it turns into yet another nothingburger. When have ANY of them ever retracted some shitty thing they'd said about either of the Clintons, much less any libel or slander with which they've tried to smear Hillary?
Nothing's turned up. Nothing's EVER turned up. And yet that putz Chaffetz has already made it known how many inquisitions he's going to mount against a President Hillary Clinton. Even when there's no there there, that doesn't stop them from trying to pretend there is - and then try to act on it.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)that go against their narrative.
This political hit job by Comey just gave the deplorables fresh ammo and they will be screaming out the lies till election day and beyond!
Comey did a great job for Trump, no doubt about it!
3catwoman3
(25,874 posts)...Chafputz.
Hekate
(95,624 posts)musicblind
(4,562 posts)I'm hoping there is. But I don't want "hope" I want concrete. :/
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Of CEO types have been recorded. It's way more common than you think. I would just be shocked if there weren't tapes out there.
If I'm wrong about the tapes I can tell you this. HRC has millions to spend on oppo. THERES NO WAY THEY FOUND NOTHING. No way.
tblue37
(66,066 posts)such an "October Surprise." And if no surprise occurs, the reserved oppo can be dropped midway to late in the week before the election.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 28, 2016, 04:35 PM - Edit history (1)
Comey is certainly feeling the heat and he doesnt like it. This situation has given him a chance to gain his creds back with RW cons.
However this will have some negative impact on the Clinton campaign. Its never good to be on explaining side of a perceived scandal... fake or not.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Cosmocat
(15,074 posts)He wrote they were pertinent to the server investigation w no other clarificarion, written purposely to be both ambiguous AND allow Republicans to run around w theur hair on fire.
They are not "pertinent" the server investigation, that just is a complete misrepresentation to allow the assumption that this is about hillary.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The language he used in the letter was designed to do maximum damage to Hillary.
No doubt about it!
FailureToCommunicate
(14,358 posts)tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Dave in VA
(2,183 posts)Thanks for the well reasoned post. I hope that you are correct about the Clinton/Kaine campaign op-po and I agree, let it drop NOW!
Maru Kitteh
(29,324 posts)Fucker.
MADem
(135,425 posts)was OTT wrong.
This letter (re: an investigation that no one was aware of, and that will not be resolved before the election) is just bullshit. If he hadn't "opined" in the first place he wouldn't feel a need to cover his sorry ass.
Obama should ask for his resignation after the election--or he should OFFER it.
If he wants to get involved in politics, he should run for office like every other asshole.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)okieinpain
(9,397 posts)isn't going to be in huma's corner when dealing with that fool. if there was any person in the world that you wanted to be involved in something like this is someone like mr. weiner. lol. i can enjoy the weekend now.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)okieinpain
(9,397 posts)she's worked on that laptop. if it was terrible stuff she would have deleted it a long time ago.
Miles Archer
(18,960 posts)I see this development through a short lens. I agree with Paul Krugman:
Paul Krugman Verified account
?@paulkrugman
Comey needs to provide full info immediately. Otherwise he has clearly made a partisan intervention, betraying his office.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Prosecutors, especially the Feds, have a unique duty to be above politics and it would appear and Comey couldn't be more transparently political.
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)Is it applicable? I googled it but the stuff I found seemed kind of convoluted and unclear. Just wondered what you think there.
Also people on DU keep screaming for Comey to be fired. Is that a reasonable reaction?
The whole thing didn't worry me greatly because if publicans can't come up with anything better than this then they're goners (happy to say) and that's encouraging. Plus this has produced the unintended side effect of energizing Dems big time (also called bigly, which is apparently not word coinage but a slurring of Big League). On balance more plus than minus, seemingly at first glance.
But I very much liked your post, because it clarified the situation. I had been thinking that Comey just didn't seem very bright.
So, Hatch Act? Firing? Thanks for your insights.
ffr
(23,140 posts)Those ballots cannot be changed now. Not even if Comey sends a letter every day from here out about FBI investigations to investigate all the prior investigations.
COMEY JUST COMES ACROSS AS DESPERATE.
Cha
(306,204 posts)Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)luvmybluestate
(54 posts)hrc will be smarter than this
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Response to Fahrenthold451 (Reply #71)
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)jimlup
(8,008 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)BlueStateLib
(937 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,855 posts)The hidden agendas aren't so hidden but they are disheartening.
I expect better from the press.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Reminded me of the scene in "The Right Stuff" when Jeff Goldbloom runs down the hallway to breathlessly announce that the Russians launched Sputnik. It's like they are all cramped up in their little jack in the box just waiting to pop out and announce some Breitbart talking point.
Puzzler
(2,505 posts)-p
brett_jv
(1,245 posts)KNOWING that he was legally obliged to report to Congress in this manner due to statements he'd made under oath ... then you know what I think?
I think whoever dropped the docs (and whoever is 'behind' that person) was ACTUALLY hoping the Comey was going to sit on these emails ... rather than make this report to Congress.
And the plan THEN ... was for Faux or some GOP Congresscritter to 'expose' that these emails were 'hidden from Congress' by Comey ... on like Nov 7th ... creating mass confusion about WTH was going on/whether or not he was really impartial when investigating the first time, etc. OR wait until she wins, then this becomes starting point to impeach or at least harass her with investigations for YEARS more. AND the GOP would've had Comey by the short & curlies to come up with something more damaging to Hill.
Him keeping it to himself would've meant a WAY better outcome for the GOP is the truth. This thing is going to fizzle big-time and change exactly nobody's mind.
As much as it sucks and is irritating in this moment, I think Comey did the right thing here, and the alternative would've sucked a LOT worse.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)His hands were tied, I get that. But, either there's a there there or not. Don't be coy.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)Comey didn't tweet he was reopening the case. In fact his letter says nothing of the kind. I noticed that right off too.
But CYA? Maybe. But I also consider that Comey was Ken Starr's lead investigator for Whitewater and may well still have a vendetta. He did not have to do this now. He'd be an idiot (which he's not) to not foresee this reaction in such a volatile atmosphere. When it's just a matter of days now, seems he could have waited.
Unless, he knew someone was about to tip off the lunatic fringe GOP.
He didn't expressly say he wasn't reopening the investigation. And he coukd have stated such and still CYA.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)He was terrified about it leaking before he could announce, and then the Republicans would go crazy on him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-director-james-b-comey-under-fire-for-his-controversial-decision-on-the-clinton-email-inquiry/2016/10/28/fbad009c-9d57-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_comey-810pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Gman
(24,780 posts)if he were under the bus. That's probably true.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)NJCher
(38,440 posts)So you're saying Comey is lying about the emails coming through the Weiner investigation? I don't understand why Comey would make something up like this. If he did and he was caught while he's testifying in front of Gowdy, Chaffetz, et al, he would lose credibility--and over what?
If you say he's lying about how he came across the emails, there has to be a substantial enough reason to take that risk.
Cher
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)That being said, this is a hit job through and through. Chaffetz absolutely set Comey up to feel compelled to advise Congress if any additional information (emails) came to light. There are a lot of conservative agents who were not happy with Comeys decision. My take is that there was knowledge about these emails prior to Comey testifying. Comey's underlings came to him yesterday and told him, "Hey, whadya know, we got a whole bunch of emails here that bear State Dept. provenance." Comey doesn't even look at them. He's stuck. Don't disclose to congress, and Chaffetz will own him when the emails are leaked. Comey isn't lying about anything. His conservative agents, along with the Repubs, set this one up nicely.
Yes, it's possible that these emails just popped up out of the Weiner investigation. It's possible. But this is smells like a Nixonian rat fuck to me.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,069 posts)Oh, and thanks and welcome to DU, if you're new.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)nolabear
(43,333 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)And for his political collusion with the GOP, Comey needs to be indicted under the Hatch Act.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 29, 2016, 05:48 AM - Edit history (2)
Would have recomended that Lynch file charges. That would have been tough for HRC to recover from. No need to do all this manuvering. That being said, my take is that he violated the Hatch act. Federal employees are still forbidden to use their authority to affect the results of an election.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)...he could very well have been facing felony charges for abuse of power.
BTW Chaffetz can't be touched under the Hatch Act because it doesn't apply to Congress (or to POTUS/VPOTUS either), only to executive branch employees.
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)The reference I found only said the Hatch act
"... prohibits employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president, vice-president, and certain designated high-level officials of that branch, from engaging ..."
also it's been amended a bunch of times, most recently as 2012. But since the House is the legislative branch, not the executive branch, that guy is probably okay, unless there's something in one of the amendments or something -- but it seems unlikely; elected reps are always trying to affect elections.
The FBI guy Comey must be executive branch though, so I'd think Hatch would apply to him probably, unless he's one of those "designated high-level officials" that are exempt. Then again, even if it applies, who decides whether to prosecute? I'm curious whether Hatch applies to Comey. Also curious whether the Prez can just fire him as some have suggested.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)also I just read an article in Raw Story where somebody is all worked up about the Fourth Amendment. Says Comey's violating the Fourth Amendment, which seems pretty obviously true once it's pointed out, but his main gripe is that the FBI violates the 4th regularly when dealing with emails, telephones and the like.
and despicable as Chaffetz is, he's got competition for your animosity if you want to distribute it fairly. That oddly Aryan-looking House Benghazi Committee Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina springs to mind, rather like something scary suddenly jumping out at you from the shadows as you walk through a light fog down a dimly lit Victorian cobblestone laneway late at night, or as you hurry timidly along a narrow path through deep forest in the twilight just after sunset. And Speaking of that old Goering photo you've got, there is a stunningly Deja Vu photo of old Trey at this link:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article105738886.html
. . . but there are so many. Ted Cruz. Paul Ryan. Newt. Hollywood could easily produce a major monster movie with a cast completely composed of American Republican politicians, and that cast wouldn't even need acting lessons; all they'd have to do, as the Beatles sang about their movie, "is act naturally". Sarah Palin. So many choices.
Don't let them get to you. My advice, when you feel that "hate" start to tap on your shoulder, just go to an amusement park or watch a funny comedy movie. If you're stuck in an embassy with nothing but a laptop, you can watch videos of late-night comedy satire on You Tube and look up The Borowitz Report, Chris Lamb, and similar satire news. That can also work for a quick break if you're trapped at a desk in an office. Snopes.com is surprisingly funny because they debunk bizarre stories that you'd never think of, and the stories being debunked are hilarious -- Hillary has been replaced by a clone? Really? Whose idea is that? Anyway the point is, laugh it off, shake it off, don't let them lure you towards "the dark side". Oh, yeah, Sci Fi movies can be pretty funny too if you like that kind of thing, but even if they don't seem funny they do get your mind off the antics of the Repugnant Cons, or as I just saw them called hilariously, Banana Republicans (Based on the conjecture that agents within the FBI might be colluding with certain politicians to stage a coup, Third World style).
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)By Jason Easley on Mon, Oct 31st, 2016 at 12:49 pm
An ethics complaint has been filed against Representative Jason Chaffetz for releasing information provided to him in a letter from FBI Director James Comey.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/31/ethics-complaint-filed-rep-jason-chaffez-releasing-comey-clinton-email-letter.html
BlueStateLib
(937 posts)They would have to indict half of the state department's diplomatic staff
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)My hope is that as this breaks the press will realize what a complete crock this whole thing is and the story will morph completely into what a douche Comey is.
ColemanMaskell
(783 posts)Upthevibe
(9,330 posts)donco
(1,548 posts)it was released on Friday.
Kablooie
(18,804 posts)So he decided Republican attacks in the future would be much worse a national shit storm screaming for his resignation right now.
We'll see.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Be accused of perjury. And when people face legal exposure they cover ass first and worry about the shit storm later. Somebody dropped his in his lap Thursday and the race was on.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)First of all, your doubt of the Weiner connection was inept. Top reporters are scrambling for their best sources when a story of this magnitude breaks. Once they hit on something those reporters aren't going to release something as specific as a link to one well known person unless the sources are terrific and insistent.
I basically downplayed the remainder of your post after reading that flub. Perhaps that wasn't fair to you but I have little respect for such a basic failure to understand raw probability. Granted, I was playing golf when the Weiner connection was made but if I had inherited it in real time I would have grasped the likelihood of truth, and it would have been well north of 90%.
Additional Trump material is also low percentage, and especially something as specific as an audio tape. Maybe I should say meaningful Trump material. In this case meaningful would be enough to bump this email inflation to second tier or co-first tier. If anyone has been holding an audio tape or similar for max impact they are guilty of pathetic handicapping. It is now favored to be drowned. Favoritism is that they have overestimated the value to begin with. That is the norm. It's mine therefore it overwhelms. I believe there will be attempts. I believe they will be trivial.
Comey's own wandering words in the internal memo were most telling of all, IMO. That was not strategic certainty, to cover his ass or any other purpose. He had little idea what to do and basically described that in weak apologetic style.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)The minute I read Comeys letter I wrote my post. As an attorney I know a CYA letter when I see one. I knew the obligations and exposure that Comey had due to his testimony and I knew the pressure he was under if the emails leaked before he sent the letter. This is born out in the Politico post.
Comey, in all likelihood, had an obligation to notify Congress of the FBIs most recent move on the Clinton emails, after he testified over the summer that the investigation was essentially finished.
When a witness tells Congress something under oath that turns out to be untrue, or the facts and circumstances around the testimony change after the fact, he or she is supposed to notify lawmakers right away to correct the record.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/fbi-reopens-clinton-email-server-investigation-230454#ixzz4OT2HLQ1n
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Now, I apologize for not fleshing out what Inmeant by the "I'm not buying it line". Was this just a coincidence? Do I believe that nobody in the FBI knew about these emails? No. I'm not buying that. My take is that someone has been sitting on this for a while and it was disclosed now to inflict maximum pain on Clinton. I don't believe in coincidences when it comes to this stuff.
As for my speculation re oppo. It's speculation, of course. That being said, watch what happens today. I hope I'm right. If HRC has nothing left on Trump then her team has committed political malpractice. With all of her money, time, connections and fertile subject matter I believe it far more likely than not that he drop will happen about 10am EST today. But it's a hope.
ncgrits
(916 posts)I came back to your post this morning to check in for updates or clarifications. And I so appreciate not only your perspective, but your demeanor and tone! Thanks for sharing your p.o.v. in such a measured manner. You, sir or madam, are just the gentle-person DU needs to get us through the latest cluster cuss.
Welcome!
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)And I'm a guy, although there's something cool about being so anonymous that you have to be addressed with gender neutrality. Appreciate it.
burrowowl
(18,072 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Response to Fahrenthold451 (Original post)
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JackHughes
(166 posts)This latest email kerfuffle proceeded from Bill Clinton's entirely innocent, but ill-advised, airport meeting with Loretta Lynch -- which forced her to abdicate all responsibility for the investigation to Comey, who then made assurances to congressional Republicans.
The Clinton campaign should get Huma on TV fast. She's a cipher to most Americans and she needs to be humanized. She would be a sympathetic figure for most American women.
onecent
(6,096 posts)in some sort of weird way.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)You're welcome
RolfHarris39
(4 posts)Why would he drop something like this just 11 days before the election? Doesn't he realize just how high the stakes are? I'll never forgive him if this is enough to help Donald win.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)He testified to congress he would keep them updated and there for sure were some conservative leaning senior agents who were going to leak these emails shortly. I can tell you that when people feel like they have legal exposure sometimes they get tunnel vision. At a minimum, intense self-interest kicks in. The FBI aggressively prosecutes people who make false statements to their agency. He knew he could be accused of making a false statement to Congress. So he wrote the most open ended BS letter he could to resolve his exposure, knowing full well it would be misinterpreted and knowing he would roil the world. But he covered his ass...
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)tenderfoot
(8,964 posts)Just saying.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)A pedophile at that.
djg21
(1,803 posts)Somebody in the know dropped some emails in the FBIs lap recently. (Was it merely a routine disclosure from the Weiner investigation? Maybe, but I'm not buying it. The timing of all this makes me believe that this was not just an innocent 11th hour discovery.)
My sense is similar. I think Anthony Weiner cut a deal of some sort and is trying to avoid being prosecuted.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)While the prospect makes my hind quarters clench, I don't think so. If Weiner was cooperating, then Comey would not be able to say he doesn't even know what he has. The way Comey left it was--"Well, we got a bunch of emails, haven't even looked at them yet, and that's it. We will keep you posted". So I'm not concerned.
djg21
(1,803 posts)One alternative is that Comey already knows there's nothing in the emails and he has another agenda. Perhaps he thinks he is protecting the Bureau from he inevitable congressional investigations that will start day one of Hillary's first term. Perhaps he's just looking for job security: if he is fired by Loretta Lynch or Clinton, he can sceam retaliation and the optics for the new administration will be ugly. Comey is not stupid, and my suspicion is that he has gamed this out.
Weiner is a self-interested creep. Don't put anything past him. He would throw his own mother under a bus if he thought it would further his interests or political ambitions. If he did offer up the laptop, there presumably wouldn't be a need for a warrant, unless perhaps Huma's emails were encrypted or somehow secured and he did not have access (I haven't looked at this issue so don't know for certain).
Wounded Bear
(60,992 posts)starting in July with his stupid editorializing when he announced he wasn't bringing charges. He should have just said the old boilerplate line:
"We have concluded that there is insufficient evidence to reocmmend charges be filed."
Period.
End of message.
End of press conference.
If he had done that it would have at least discouraged the Repubs in Congress from bringing him in under oath and force that "promise" out of him. He screwed up then, and then he released all of the investigation notes (something else that is uncommon), and now yes, he's in CYA mode, because he fucked up from the get-go on this one.