If states like TX, GA, MS, UT, AK etc. have shifted left 8 to 10 points from the last election

[Quixote1818]

How on earth could it be only a two point Hillary Advantage? Not to mention states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota etc. are now solid blue. Comparing the map from 2012 tells me this is not going to be nearly as close as the media is trying to make it out to be. It seems they manipulate the National Polls to make it look like a Horse Race but the state polls show what is really going on and they show a Clinton blow-out. Keep in mind that Obama won by 4 points:


Current Electoral Vote Map



This day 4 years ago:

[Jason1961]

1. It's the changing demographics

Time is our biggest ally, we're watching the slow death of the Republican Party

If we win this election it will be a mercifully swift death for them

[Cosmocat]

8. The republican party is so NOT "dying"

Had Trump not run, this election looks a LOT different. Cruz is horrible, but he would not have spend half a year acosting the parents of a fallen soldier, had an endless stream or sexual abuse victims come out, etc. This is not a statement on Hillary, but it is really likely that anyone of the other 14 candidates, outside of Carson, would be on track to win.

They have commanding control of the House and will still have control after a bad election, they might lose the senate, but only by a seat or two at most, and have a MUCH more favorable senate race in two years to get it back. They will still have more governorships and state legislatures in their control.

I was one of those who were in the mode of thinking that "demographics" would wittle them down back in 06 and 08.

Then 2010 happened, and I was awakened to the reality that the the combination of the stupid in this country AND their hatred, fear and division are such a good match, we are likely see overall republican control for the rest of the 30 or so years I have left on this earth.

Sorry, they are NOT "dying."

That just runs counter to reality.

[DLCWIdem]

9. true any other candidate wouldn't have the gaffes

However, the other candidates couldn't have drummed up the Nazi vote as much and they would have been just as unpopular with Hispanics and other immigrants.

[Quixote1818]

10. I agree with everything you just said. Not to mention the GOP dominates local politics

even in many deep blue states.

[marybourg]

2. Dems have an electoral collage

advantage.

[Quixote1818]

3. Not just that, her map looks a lot more blue than Obama's in 12

and he won by 4 points. She could win by 8 to 10 points but the media adjusts the National polls to make it look close. The state polls show a blow out.

[unblock]

4. Most red states have been deeeeply red.

But demographics are changing that. Give it another 4 or 8 years and the map will be very different!

[greymattermom]

6. And many of those red states are not growing

And will lose electoral votes in 2020

[forjusticethunders]

5. Trump is right, the election has been rigged

He's wrong about who is *benefitting* from the rigging though. It's really hilarious that Trump will lose by 10-15 points with the entire Establishment, all the way up to the FUCKING FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, trying to tip the election in his favor.