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Dem2

(8,166 posts)
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:22 PM Oct 2016

Donald Trump, Manchurian Candidate?

July 26, 2016

The Republicans have repeatedly accused President Obama of being a Manchurian President, a double agent secretly in the employ of foreign entities, and working to harm America from within.

They’ve accused him over and over and over and over and over again, on the basis of nothing but easily-debunked evidence.

So now, the hot news story of the day is that Donald Trump may be in debt to Russian oligarchs connected to Putin, in the amount of millions — potentially HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS — of dollars. He has surrounded himself with advisors who have worked for Putin-leaning strongmen, he has indicated he would pull out of NATO, he has praised Putin himself, he has massive personal business holdings in Russia and Eastern Europe, his campaign specifically altered the GOP platform to no longer support Ukraine…

Wouldn’t this mean that Trump is quite possibly an actual Manchurian Candidate, a candidate being supported by foreign powers who want to see harm come to America?

... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/7/26/1552813/-Donald-Trump-Manchurian-Candidate

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In today’s L.A. Times, Military historian, foreign-policy analyst, and lifelong Republican, Max Boot, reveals the unsavory links between Donald Trump and Putin. With “Moscow’s virtual fingerprints...all over this operation,” Boot posits that this “Russian intelligence operation designed to damage Clinton...” “appears to be a foreign intervention in American Politics — and it may only be the beginning”

Although the novelist Richard Condon died 20 years ago, his 1959 bestseller (adapted for film twice — in 1962 and 2004) seems strangely relevant today.

... http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/26/1552787/--Donald-Trump-is-THE-MANCHURIAN-CANDIDATE-Coming-Soon-to-a-Voting-Booth-Near-You

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August 1, 2016

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Trump has repeatedly praised Russia’s state-managed, kleptocratic economy as a great place to invest, a judgment in harsh contrast to the bitter experience of most Western companies. His son, Donald Jr. also differs, commenting that in Russia “It is a question of who knows who, whose brother is paying off who. .?.?. It really is a scary place.”

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But Donald Trump Jr. revealed in 2008 that Russian oligarchs are a major source of finance for Trump projects in other countries. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” For example, in 2007, heavy Russian backing flowed into the Trump Soho mega project, including, according to court records, “a $50 million investment in Trump SoHo and three other Bayrock projects by an Icelandic firm preferred by wealthy Russians ‘in favor with’ President Vladimir V. Putin.”

Trump typically acts for his own financial bottom line. So even though Manafort this week denied that Trump had any financial interests in Russia or Russian funders, we should remain skeptical until Trump releases his tax returns.

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Trump has lusted after a relationship with Putin for years. He mused on how marvelous it would be if Putin would reach out to him, repeatedly mentioning gifts Putin had sent. Typically, Donald cannot keep his stories straight on how close he got to Putin. In a Moscow 2013 interview Trump told MSNBC, “I do have a relationship, and I can tell you that he’s very interested in what we’re doing here today”. In 2014 Trump reasserted, “I spoke indirectly and directly with President Putin, who could not have been nicer.” In 2015 he claimed, “I got to know him very well because we were both on 60 Minutes.”

But last week he demurred. “I never met Putin. I don’t know who Putin is. He said one nice thing about me,” And “I have nothing to do with Putin. I’ve never spoken to him. I don’t know anything about him other than he will respect me.”

... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-pope/is-donald-trump-the-real_b_11297176.html

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August 9, 2016

Most intelligence experts believe the email leaks attacking Hillary Clinton at the time of the Democratic National Convention were originally obtained through espionage by Russian intelligence services engaging in cyberwar against America, and then shared with WikiLeaks by Russian sources engaged in an infowar against America.

Do Republicans running for the House and Senate in 2016 want to be aligned with a Russian strongman and his intelligence services engaging in covert action against America for the presumed purpose of electing Putin’s preferred candidate? Do they believe Trump when he says he was only kidding when he publicly supported these espionage practices and called for them to be escalated?

Do Republicans running in 2016 believe that America should have a commander in chief who has harshly criticized NATO and stated that if Russia invades the Baltic states, Eastern Europe states such as Poland, or Western Europe he is not committed to defending our allies against this aggression?

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In “The Manchurian Candidate,” our enemies sought to influence our politics at the highest level. What troubles a growing number of Republicans in Congress, and so many Republican and Democratic national security leaders, is that in 2016 life imitates art, aided and abetted by what appears to be a Russian covert action designed to elect the next American president.

http://thehill.com/opinion/brent-budowsky/290869-brent-budowsky-donald-trump-a-real-life-manchurian-candidate

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August 26, 2016

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Fringe conservatives are more prone than impassioned liberals to becoming “Manchurian candidates” because liberals do not think the government of the republic is a “humbug.” The right, distrusting of government, does not see the dangers of toying with it. After all, McCarthyism ultimately undermined U.S. national security by forcing the most capable diplomats out of the State Department on trumped-up charges, leaving no one to check the folly of the Vietnam War.

Like the brainwashing of soldiers in “The Manchurian Candidate,” Trump and the right hold the media and electorate captive through verbal humiliation and repetition. It is not Trump who has been brainwashed. He is not the Manchurian candidate. The American people are.

The communists humiliate Raymond to such a degree that he can only find peace in totalitarian control. Similarly, Trump’s economically and culturally humiliated working-class heroes believe in a leader who believes in nothing.

... http://www.salon.com/2016/08/26/is-trump-the-manchurian-candidate-themes-in-the-1950s-classic-dont-seem-so-far-fetched-in-2016-america/

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Is Trump a Manchurian Candidate? I don't know, but "some people say"

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Koinos

(2,792 posts)
9. At first I thought that was a still shot from "Idiocracy."
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:41 PM
Oct 2016

Behind those eyes ... there is nothing whatsoever.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
10. And here is the other oppo that dropped today:
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:43 PM
Oct 2016



Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton 1h1 hour ago
It's time for Trump to answer serious questions about his ties to Russia. http://slate.me/2dWggCd pic.twitter.com/07dRyEmPjX





http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump

But a senior US government official not involved in this case but familiar with the former spy tells Mother Jones that he has been a credible source with a proven record of providing reliable, sensitive, and important information to the US government.

In June, the former Western intelligence officer—who spent almost two decades on Russian intelligence matters and who now works with a US firm that gathers information on Russia for corporate clients—was assigned the task of researching Trump's dealings in Russia and elsewhere, according to the former spy and his associates in this American firm.




http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html

The researchers had initially stumbled in their diagnosis because of the odd configuration of Trump’s server. “I’ve never seen a server set up like that,” says Christopher Davis, who runs the cybersecurity firm HYAS InfoSec Inc. and won a FBI Director Award for Excellence for his work tracking down the authors of one of the world’s nastiest botnet attacks. “It looked weird, and it didn’t pass the sniff test.” The server was first registered to Trump’s business in 2009 and was set up to run consumer marketing campaigns. It had a history of sending mass emails on behalf of Trump-branded properties and products. Researchers were ultimately convinced that the server indeed belonged to Trump. (Click here to see the server’s registration record.) But now this capacious server handled a strangely small load of traffic, such a small load that it would be hard for a company to justify the expense and trouble it would take to maintain it. “I get more mail in a day than the server handled,” Davis says.




http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-campaign-lobbyist-russian-pipeline-229264

Richard Burt helped shape the candidate's first foreign-policy speech while lobbying on behalf of a Moscow-controlled gas company.




Hillary ClintonVerified account
?@HillaryClinton
With just 8 days left, this can’t wait. RT if you agree Trump should immediately disclose all of his ties and connections to Russia.


That is going to get noticed.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
11. Rachel did a good segment about this - doing another one now about Harry Reid's letter!!
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:47 PM
Oct 2016

Nice.

And thanks for adding your info here, I wanted to document some of the history of his Russian involvement in a (hopefully) interesting way and hoped we could piggyback the new oppo onto this as well.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
14. Yeah... I've been trying to gather the info and post it as much as I could...
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 11:24 PM
Oct 2016

without getting too spammy.

I covered a few threads and tweeted to a bunch of newsers. But, I think this tweet will spread it out pretty far and wide:


Hillary ClintonVerified account
?@HillaryClinton
With just 8 days left, this can’t wait. RT if you agree Trump should immediately disclose all of his ties and connections to Russia.


https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/793254986641764356

STLDEM

(7 posts)
12. first time poster here
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:51 PM
Oct 2016

I believe Trump is a manchurian candidate. His ties to Russia scare me. Between the secret server (ironic huh) and his cultivation by Russian spy agencies, I'm terrified. We have got to defeat him on November 8th!!!

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