2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDonald Trump, Manchurian Candidate?
July 26, 2016
The Republicans have repeatedly accused President Obama of being a Manchurian President, a double agent secretly in the employ of foreign entities, and working to harm America from within.
Theyve accused him over and over and over and over and over again, on the basis of nothing but easily-debunked evidence.
So now, the hot news story of the day is that Donald Trump may be in debt to Russian oligarchs connected to Putin, in the amount of millions potentially HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars. He has surrounded himself with advisors who have worked for Putin-leaning strongmen, he has indicated he would pull out of NATO, he has praised Putin himself, he has massive personal business holdings in Russia and Eastern Europe, his campaign specifically altered the GOP platform to no longer support Ukraine
Wouldnt this mean that Trump is quite possibly an actual Manchurian Candidate, a candidate being supported by foreign powers who want to see harm come to America?
... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/7/26/1552813/-Donald-Trump-Manchurian-Candidate
_____________________________________________
In todays L.A. Times, Military historian, foreign-policy analyst, and lifelong Republican, Max Boot, reveals the unsavory links between Donald Trump and Putin. With Moscows virtual fingerprints...all over this operation, Boot posits that this Russian intelligence operation designed to damage Clinton... appears to be a foreign intervention in American Politics and it may only be the beginning
Although the novelist Richard Condon died 20 years ago, his 1959 bestseller (adapted for film twice in 1962 and 2004) seems strangely relevant today.
... http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/26/1552787/--Donald-Trump-is-THE-MANCHURIAN-CANDIDATE-Coming-Soon-to-a-Voting-Booth-Near-You
________________________________________________
August 1, 2016
...
Trump has repeatedly praised Russias state-managed, kleptocratic economy as a great place to invest, a judgment in harsh contrast to the bitter experience of most Western companies. His son, Donald Jr. also differs, commenting that in Russia It is a question of who knows who, whose brother is paying off who. .?.?. It really is a scary place.
...
But Donald Trump Jr. revealed in 2008 that Russian oligarchs are a major source of finance for Trump projects in other countries. Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia. For example, in 2007, heavy Russian backing flowed into the Trump Soho mega project, including, according to court records, a $50 million investment in Trump SoHo and three other Bayrock projects by an Icelandic firm preferred by wealthy Russians in favor with President Vladimir V. Putin.
Trump typically acts for his own financial bottom line. So even though Manafort this week denied that Trump had any financial interests in Russia or Russian funders, we should remain skeptical until Trump releases his tax returns.
...
Trump has lusted after a relationship with Putin for years. He mused on how marvelous it would be if Putin would reach out to him, repeatedly mentioning gifts Putin had sent. Typically, Donald cannot keep his stories straight on how close he got to Putin. In a Moscow 2013 interview Trump told MSNBC, I do have a relationship, and I can tell you that hes very interested in what were doing here today. In 2014 Trump reasserted, I spoke indirectly and directly with President Putin, who could not have been nicer. In 2015 he claimed, I got to know him very well because we were both on 60 Minutes.
But last week he demurred. I never met Putin. I dont know who Putin is. He said one nice thing about me, And I have nothing to do with Putin. Ive never spoken to him. I dont know anything about him other than he will respect me.
... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-pope/is-donald-trump-the-real_b_11297176.html
__________________________________________
August 9, 2016
Most intelligence experts believe the email leaks attacking Hillary Clinton at the time of the Democratic National Convention were originally obtained through espionage by Russian intelligence services engaging in cyberwar against America, and then shared with WikiLeaks by Russian sources engaged in an infowar against America.
Do Republicans running for the House and Senate in 2016 want to be aligned with a Russian strongman and his intelligence services engaging in covert action against America for the presumed purpose of electing Putins preferred candidate? Do they believe Trump when he says he was only kidding when he publicly supported these espionage practices and called for them to be escalated?
Do Republicans running in 2016 believe that America should have a commander in chief who has harshly criticized NATO and stated that if Russia invades the Baltic states, Eastern Europe states such as Poland, or Western Europe he is not committed to defending our allies against this aggression?
...
In The Manchurian Candidate, our enemies sought to influence our politics at the highest level. What troubles a growing number of Republicans in Congress, and so many Republican and Democratic national security leaders, is that in 2016 life imitates art, aided and abetted by what appears to be a Russian covert action designed to elect the next American president.
http://thehill.com/opinion/brent-budowsky/290869-brent-budowsky-donald-trump-a-real-life-manchurian-candidate
_________________________________________
August 26, 2016
...
Fringe conservatives are more prone than impassioned liberals to becoming Manchurian candidates because liberals do not think the government of the republic is a humbug. The right, distrusting of government, does not see the dangers of toying with it. After all, McCarthyism ultimately undermined U.S. national security by forcing the most capable diplomats out of the State Department on trumped-up charges, leaving no one to check the folly of the Vietnam War.
Like the brainwashing of soldiers in The Manchurian Candidate, Trump and the right hold the media and electorate captive through verbal humiliation and repetition. It is not Trump who has been brainwashed. He is not the Manchurian candidate. The American people are.
The communists humiliate Raymond to such a degree that he can only find peace in totalitarian control. Similarly, Trumps economically and culturally humiliated working-class heroes believe in a leader who believes in nothing.
... http://www.salon.com/2016/08/26/is-trump-the-manchurian-candidate-themes-in-the-1950s-classic-dont-seem-so-far-fetched-in-2016-america/
______________________________________________
Is Trump a Manchurian Candidate? I don't know, but "some people say"
TeamPooka
(24,209 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)pkdu
(3,977 posts)roamer65
(36,744 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Dem2
(8,166 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Dem2
(8,166 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)Behind those eyes ... there is nothing whatsoever.
whttevrr
(2,345 posts)
Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton 1h1 hour ago
It's time for Trump to answer serious questions about his ties to Russia. http://slate.me/2dWggCd pic.twitter.com/07dRyEmPjX
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump
But a senior US government official not involved in this case but familiar with the former spy tells Mother Jones that he has been a credible source with a proven record of providing reliable, sensitive, and important information to the US government.
In June, the former Western intelligence officerwho spent almost two decades on Russian intelligence matters and who now works with a US firm that gathers information on Russia for corporate clientswas assigned the task of researching Trump's dealings in Russia and elsewhere, according to the former spy and his associates in this American firm.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
The researchers had initially stumbled in their diagnosis because of the odd configuration of Trumps server. Ive never seen a server set up like that, says Christopher Davis, who runs the cybersecurity firm HYAS InfoSec Inc. and won a FBI Director Award for Excellence for his work tracking down the authors of one of the worlds nastiest botnet attacks. It looked weird, and it didnt pass the sniff test. The server was first registered to Trumps business in 2009 and was set up to run consumer marketing campaigns. It had a history of sending mass emails on behalf of Trump-branded properties and products. Researchers were ultimately convinced that the server indeed belonged to Trump. (Click here to see the servers registration record.) But now this capacious server handled a strangely small load of traffic, such a small load that it would be hard for a company to justify the expense and trouble it would take to maintain it. I get more mail in a day than the server handled, Davis says.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-campaign-lobbyist-russian-pipeline-229264
Richard Burt helped shape the candidate's first foreign-policy speech while lobbying on behalf of a Moscow-controlled gas company.
Hillary ClintonVerified account
?@HillaryClinton
With just 8 days left, this cant wait. RT if you agree Trump should immediately disclose all of his ties and connections to Russia.
That is going to get noticed.
Dem2
(8,166 posts)Nice.
And thanks for adding your info here, I wanted to document some of the history of his Russian involvement in a (hopefully) interesting way and hoped we could piggyback the new oppo onto this as well.
whttevrr
(2,345 posts)without getting too spammy.
I covered a few threads and tweeted to a bunch of newsers. But, I think this tweet will spread it out pretty far and wide:
Hillary ClintonVerified account
?@HillaryClinton
With just 8 days left, this cant wait. RT if you agree Trump should immediately disclose all of his ties and connections to Russia.
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/793254986641764356
whttevrr
(2,345 posts)STLDEM
(7 posts)I believe Trump is a manchurian candidate. His ties to Russia scare me. Between the secret server (ironic huh) and his cultivation by Russian spy agencies, I'm terrified. We have got to defeat him on November 8th!!!
Rhodeislander
(4 posts)...he is doing a damn poor job at hiding it!