"Maybe you shouldn't have fucked with the president so much."

[babylonsister]

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/11/29/231032/17

Who's the Kenyan, Now?

by BooMan
Thu Nov 29th, 2012 at 11:10:32 PM EST


Read this and try not to laugh your ass off:

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Thursday rejected a White House offer to avoid the "fiscal cliff" that would include $1.6 trillion in tax increases, $400 billion in spending cuts and a more permanent increase in the debt ceiling, Republican aides said.

Aides said the offer was made by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Rob Nabors, a top White House adviser, during their meeting with Republican leaders in the Capitol.

While the Obama administration described the offer as reducing the deficit by $4 trillion over 10 years, Republicans told The Hill its tax increases amount to $600 billion more than what the Democratic-led Senate passed earlier this year when it approved legislation that would allow tax rates on top earners to rise. “We’ve offered a balanced approach to deal with the fiscal cliff: raising revenue in a way that protects jobs while cutting spending,” said a Republican congressional aide familiar with the proposal. “But, after two weeks of discussions, the offer the White House made today is completely unbalanced and unreasonable, and amounts to little more than reiterating the president’s budget request — which failed to get a single vote in the House or Senate.”

House Democrats backed the White House for putting forward an offer based on Obama’s 2013 budget.

House Budget Committee ranking member Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), emerging from a meeting with Geithner where leaders were briefed on the offer, said it is House GOP leaders who must now put forth their plan.

“The Republicans have made some nice, positive noises but they haven't put a plan on the table,” Van Hollen added.

Republicans said the administration is demanding the $1.6 trillion in tax increases upfront, while the smaller amount of spending cuts would come later. The White House also wants $50 billion in new stimulus spending, according to published reports, and to make permanent a change in the way the debt ceiling is raised so that Congress can only block it with a two-thirds majority.

“This offer represents a complete break from reality,” the Republican aide said.

Au contraire, mon frère, that is precisely the "reality" that the Republicans are facing. The administration is threatening to weaken their ability to obstruct in the Senate or to blow up the economy by holding the debt ceiling hostage, while also demanding their tax hikes on the rich and refusing to offer anything remotely satisfactory (from the Republicans' point of view) in spending cuts.

Give the president what he wants or over the cliff we go. And the GOP gets the blame no matter what happens. Maybe you shouldn't have fucked with the president so much.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

1. Revenge is a dish best served cold...

Eat up, Mr. President. Eat up.

[kooljerk666]

15. Not cold, Pinto Beans & Muffins

[LongTomH]

30. I prefer Fava beans and a good Chianti, myself!

[PatrynXX]

39. chianti ain't half bad

fava beans. don't know. haven't tried those

but it's very cold in space....

So after a year of Mitt Romney not based in reality with polls around him not based in reality John simply stole the punch line. never can come up with anything original...

[nydem14499rsgx]

44. sounds scrumptious

mmmmm..

[calimary]

85. BWAAHAAAAAaaaaaaa!!! One of the reports I read about this referred to

what the White House presented to the House CONS was a "suck on this" package.

LOVE IT!!!

THIS is how the republi-CONS should be treated - just on general principles, but PARTICULARLY in the aftermath of their LOSS in the 2012 election. Let's all remember - they LOST. And they should be reminded of that at EVERY possible opportunity. INCLUDING THEIR LOSSES IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Some mandate! They freakin' LOST seats.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

35. +1000 nt

[DCKit]

79. The longer you wait, the worse it's going to get.

The Republics don't understand who's in charge.

[Uben]

2. Fuck with the best, lose like the rest!

I am so gonna enjoy these cretons bitchin and moanin. I hope Boner can get his tear ducts refilled enough to handle this.

[bongbong]

54. Chemistry

Orange-Man's tears were analyzed and found to be 96.4% Jim Beam.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

81. I thought it was Southern Comfort.

[PoliticalBiker]

87. From Hackers?

Love that movie!

[Pholus]

3. Again, after the last "crisis" this is simply refreshing.

Make the 'Cons SAY they want instead of having them goad you behind closed doors into doing it for them. That way the country knows them for who they are.

I'm not even upset we didn't do it last time any more cause we're playing it right this time..... Happy dance, happy dance!

[genna]

12. And boy are they squealing loudly for all to hear

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/30/charles-krauthammer-fiscal-cliff_n_2215815.html

[sheshe2]

60. Like The Three Little Pigs...and the

Big Bad Wolf Boner...

'Little pig, little pig, let me come in.'

'No, no, by the hair of my chiny chin chin.'

'Then I'll huff, and I'll puff, and I'll blow your house in.'

Well, he huffed, and he puffed, and he huffed and he puffed, and he puffed and huffed; but he could not get the house down. When he found that he could not, with all his huffing and puffing, blow the house down.

[genna]

86. Agreed. I'm late but I still agree.

[scmoore120]

4. do you really want to jump

Someone with better computer skills than me should grab the video from Lethal Weapon when he jumps of the building. I think it would be appropriate.

[freshwest]

31. So we say, 'Do ya really wanna jump? Do ya wanna?'

That's fine with me...

[Volaris]

48. Yep, THIS.

"And those are MY CUFFS (with the presidential seal on them) i want them back (Mr. Speaker)."

Also, why is NO ONE pointing out that this the deal the GOP ALREADY AGREED TO, in an effort to blackmail The President LAST time???

[freshwest]

55. Of course the media won't mention it. That would make their *owners* look like idiots...

[OnionPatch]

68. Yep

That "liberal"media.

[freshwest]

69. Any examination of the 5 or so owners of media show them to be anything but 'liberal.'

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And the fiddler only knows the tune he is paid to play.

[Tab]

83. If you watch closely

they're not even cuffed together when they jump (it's broken). They are briefly separated, then they hold hands.

Wonder if that makes it a better, or worse, metaphor.

[demOcrat11]

5. Its what I like to call a win-win situation.n/t

[SunSeeker]

6. The President's budget got the votes of 65 million Americans on Nov. 6, Boner!

[TahitiNut]

7. That ANY Republican would presume to be even loosely acquainted with "reality" ...

... is ludicrous. That "Republican aide" isn't just a moron. (S)He's an oxymoron incarnate.

[NewJeffCT]

10. shouldn't it be "moran"?

[daleanime]

14. Oxemoran?

[blackspade]

23. An Oxemoran on oxycodone?

[ProudProgressiveNow]

36. +1 nt

[daleanime]

37. .......

[ReRe]

46. Bwwwaaaaaaah

[freshwest]

70. Just toss their sign back at 'em:

[Tab]

84. A visual would help

[NYtoBush-Drop Dead]

8. Repugs FORCED the sequester...

IN order to get a debt ceiling deal done AFTER they (repugs) let our credit get fucked. Now they're crying? ELections have consequences Tan Man, grow a pair and put on your man pants and deal with the miscreants in your own party. You could have done the right thing in the last 2 years but you never did. STop crying and do the right thing for the country.

[kalli007]

67. Tan Man!!!!! Omg lol!!!

[Jennicut]

9. Time to put up or shut up.

And go over the cliff. Or hit the curb, whatever term we want to use. They are caught between a rock and a hard place and they know it. Elections have consequences.

[sheshe2]

11. Please proceed Mr. President

You have the mandate and the voters behind you!
Hey GOP...Reality is a bitch...yes?

Our primary goal over the next four years? It's to see that you are all standing in the unemployment line! Bye Bye teabaggers, bye bye GOP ...Hello happiness Dems...what a sweet caress!

Thank you babylonsister!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

25. please proceed Mr. Presidenr, yes!

Cuz we are smiling with you when we say that.

[drynberg]

13. I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE THIS AS "REVENGE", BUT RATHER...

Consequences.

[patrice]

22. +++++++++++++++1google!

[LeftyLucy22]

16. This is good news.

I hope they stick to it.

[toby jo]

17. I still wanna go raid the castle and take back what they took

Stop them from taking more? - oh yeah. That's good too.

But it's not all that much, Boner, get real.

[mostlyconfused]

19. not much at all

We're operating at $1.2 to $1.3 trillion annual deficits. Taking in $1.6 trillion over ten years is hardly enough to make an impact. It needs to be much, much more.

[freshwest]

32. $1.6 trillion in taxes is 'a raid on the castle and taking back what they took.'

[Hutzpa]

53. Over ten years? not so much

considering all the pillaging and squandering that's been going on for over 30 plus years.

[freshwest]

56. Everytime they've fucked around on this, the tax amount goes up along with the stimulus funds.

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If we hold firm, deny the GOP the numbers in the Senate and House in 2014, they know that much *worse* things will happen to their agenda.

Wanna hurt 'em?

Vote 'em out everywhere.

The only thing they understand is being shown the door.

[Hutzpa]

59. Indeed

I would like to see that happen, it is set up in such a way that every time they try to renegotiate the numbers go up, sweet. I love it.

[SouthernDonkey]

61. +1

I'm with you! I think we need to seriously look at further cuts in the Military budget as well. We need to scrutinize every government contract and rein this stuff in until we make a serious dent in this deficit. And start the ball rolling with increasing the taxes on the wealthy. This shit has got to come from somewhere if we are seriously going to fix it.

[coalition_unwilling]

80. "The only thing they understand is being shown the door." - Well, I think a little

preliminary humiliation and forced groveling is in order. Bullies can only do one of two things: dominate or be dominated. I prefer that they experience the latter.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

82. Not gonna be easy what with all the gerrymandering. I live in PA and despite being a blue state

we're got a shitload of Teapers in charge. My rep, Joe Pitts, is the prototypical mean old white RWer. He lost in two of the three counties in his district, but the most rural county took him over the top.

One of my senators is Pat Toomey, another blatant shill for the 1% with 4 more years left in his term, and the other is a moderate Dem.

There have been a lot of good candidates for the "gerrymander of the decade" award this cycle. North Carolina, Illinois and Texas have all dreamed up district lines that have gone well beyond what many pundits believed could be pulled off in those states. Honorable mentions go to Massachusetts and Maryland, whose districts combine to allow for the election of one Republican out of 17 districts.

But the legislators in all those states were making heavily Democratic/Republican delegations in states that were likewise heavily Democratic/Republican. That isn’t a tremendous job.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/12/14/in_pennsylvania_the_gerrymander_of_the_decade_112404.html

I'm being told that there's little hope of undoing this. How can that be?

[freshwest]

88. No undoing the gerrymandering until 2020. To undo it in 2014 takes turnout.

The same work to get the turnout in 2012 will be required on the ground all of the months until November 2014. Giving up only guarantees another Tea Party victory as in 2010. Only turnout overcomes big money.

Nothing is hopeless with sufficient turnout. And it has to be stressed that it's the agenda, not the charisma of politicans that we must be vote for, unless we think that we live in American Idol land. Which we don't.

We must prepare for 2020 in 2013, just the way the GOP prepared for 2010 in 2000. If we want it we have to do it. PA did it in 2012 and they can do it again.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

89. I'm not optimistic because, as Rachel Maddow explained last night,

the gerrymandering itself makes it unlikely that even high turnout will allow Dems to gain any ground on any issue statewide. More voters in the state voted for Democrats to represent them, but far more Rs were sent to Washington. The PA statehouse is pure red now. And if they end winner-take-all electoral votes, we end up going red in the presidential eliciting as well.

Is this what Democracy looks like? Not to me.

[GatorLarry]

18. SO COOL!

I'm so happy the White House and Congressional Democrats are finally playing "hard ball" with the GOP.

They (Republicans) have a history of shoving what they want down Democrats' throats so it's especially refreshing to give them a dose of their own medicine. And . . . wow! They can dish it out but can't take it!

All the neocon talking heads are about to explode!

They need to accept (which they won't) that they're now the MINORITY and need to find ways to get tiny little bits of what they want while accepting the MAJORITY gets most of what it wants.

After they get blamed for taking us over the "fiscal cliff" and suffer through the upcoming filibuster reforms they brought on themselves, maybe they'll have had a sufficient butt-kicking to accept their place.

[blackspade]

20. I hope Obama sticks to his guns on this one.

He is making the Republicans look like fools despite the assist they are getting from the M$M.

I'm not a great cheerleader of Obama, but if he pulls this off, I will be much less critical.

[patrice]

21. I stand with President Obama and with Labor. nt

[grahamhgreen]

24. There is no fiscal cliff, it's a fiscal bluff; really it's budget control,

Either you're for budget control, or you're agin it:

It's the Bugdet Contol act of 2011:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s365enr/pdf/BILLS-112s365enr.pdf

[FailureToCommunicate]

29. "Fiscal Bluff" !!!

Good one!

(Just heard it also on Stephanie Miller's show)

[Ikonoklast]

26. Mr. Obama and Harry Reid skillfully maneuvered the Republicans into a trap of their own making.

Some here scoffed that any such thing actually happened, it was all a charade, nothing will come of this, Democrats accomplished nothing...

And they were all totally, completely, stupidly incorrect.

Mr. Obama not only has a strong hand, he almost has the entire deck of cards, except for one Joker named Boner.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

52. Did you say the congressman's boner is a joke?

Or did I get that confused?

[The Doctor.]

27. That's "Check"

For all those who joked about Obama's 'three-dimensional chess game'...

'Mate' is gonna be a doosey.

Wait for it....

[Tx4obama]

43. Yep :)

[Hutzpa]

51. Got your king baby.

Making his moves behind enemy lines.

Once he is done they will be asking for centuries what had just happened?

[The Doctor.]

64. Always loved that graphic.

I even have a clue what it might mean.

[mtasselin]

28. Sweet

Boner does not have the balls to stand up to the teabaggers maybe he shouldn't have that job

[John2]

38. I don't

believe Boner has to stand up to the teabaggers, because I believe he and Mitch McConnell are both in with them. I think Boner is the one keeping people in line that wants to break ranks and rumors are his ranks are cracking. I think the Dems need to talk to individual house members secretly and get their own pulse behind Boner's back. It is hard to believe all those House members, just represent the one percent. I do not think they are representing all their constituents when 60 percent of Republicans don't want to raise the medicare age. It is best to go around these fools and communicate to their constituents like Senator Sanders said.

We do that all the time in War to over throw Dictatorial regimes. That is what I got a sense of in the Election, when you had bosses threatening employees, whom to vote for. That tells me how the GOP is keeping their voters in line besides their race baiting. There is something to their Union hating too. They see Unions as a threat.

[freshwest]

72. +1,000 to what you said! And yes, unions have always been a threat to them.

[SummerSnow]

33. This is the best ...

post I read all week.Bravo. They don't like the new Obama hu?

[SummerSnow]

34. My grandma use to say...

Either shit or get off the toilet.

[Auntie Bush]

58. My Grandma used to say...

Grunt or get off the commode. She's probably a lot older than yours.

[southern_belle]

62. ...

[Filibuster Harry]

40. I don't think it is a win - win but isn't it ironic how the GOP may have to live with the answer

of NO!!! You mean the President is obstructioning Nah, he is standing for his Principles.
The Tables have turned my friend. Don't FUCK with us.

[butterfly77]

41. Kick,kick,Kicked&Recommended!

That's right don't fuck with our President!

[libdem4life]

42. So, in an 18th Century, French sort of way...let 'em eat caviar.

Please proceed, Mr. President. (I did not think that 18th Century reference up, but do not remember who to credit/quote.)

[jmowreader]

45. I'm not sure I want to see a hard plan from the GOP

I can well imagine what would be in it:

Eliminate Obamacare
Cut entitlements
Cut all loopholes
Get rid of EIC
Lower the capital gains tax
No tax increases on anyone

We can probably convince 25 congressmen and enough GOP senators to go along with our plan.

[femrap]

47. Please stop talking

about 'The Cliff.' There is no cliff. This is just a Repugnant Talking Point to get everyone all fearful and Wall Street an excuse to make money on the Short Side.

Why can't C-Span televise these 'Cliff' meetings?

[ReRe]

49. It's beginning to look allot like JUMP for Christmas!

All I want for Christmas is to

Jump, Jump Jump.

Jump, Jump, Jump.

Jump, Jump, Jump.

All I want for Christmas is to Juuuump, Juuuump, Juuuuuuuuuuuump!

So-we-can-wish-the-baggers-a-Happy-New-Year-on-New-Year's-Evvvvvvvvvvvve-Merry-Chriiiiistmas!

[freshwest]

73. This is for the GOP. Sorry, can't help myself, but this really fits here:

[IMG][/IMG]

[ReRe]

75. That is my favorite poster of all time....

But you know where I want to jump, right?

OVER THE HORRIBLE TERRIFYING PROVERBIAL "FISCAL CLIFF"

[quaker bill]

50. For 4 years

They have put all their chips on beating PBHO. It is payback time.

[babylonsister]

65. Exactly! nt

[Tx4obama]

57. And the bolded part on the link below is pretty damn funny too...

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251256896

[Rosa Luxemburg]

63. Where is your plan Republicans?

It doesn't suffice for one side to produce a plan?

[Utopian Leftist]

66. And of course they are hypocritical enough . . .

to pull the "bipartisan" card on the President . . . who has spent the last four years bending over backwards in gracious overtures towards bipartisanship . . . all of which the Cons completely ignored.

Just one more example of how they get away with exactly what they accuse their opponent of.

Kudos to the President for standing firm, and I hope he feels free to use the bipartisan card back on them anytime he wants.

[hrmjustin]

71. K&R!

[DFW]

74. The basic attitude coming from Bonehead and the House Republicans:

"WHAT election?"

Here's hoping Obama lets them find out in no uncertain terms, and quickly.

[Kennah]

76. Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have fucked with?

[Kennah]

77. Please Mr. Tan Man. We wanna jump.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

78. And this blockage worked so well for Newt when he

stood up to Bill Clinton and was gonna shut down the government. Back in 1994.


Newt lost his seat as Speaker of the House and Congress looked like fools. Big Bill looked like the good guy.