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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:41 PM Dec 2012

Republicans Claim That Obama’s Long Time Economic Proposal Represents A ‘Classic Bait-And-Switch’


By Igor Volsky on Dec 1, 2012 at 11:47 am

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) ripped into President Obama’s opening offer on a package to avert the so-called fiscal cliff, during the GOP’s weekly address on Saturday, characterizing the proposal as “radical” and a “classic bait-and-switch.” “Maybe I missed it but I don’t recall him asking for any of that during the presidential campaign,” Hatch said. “These ideas are so radical that they have already been rejected on a bipartisan basis by Congress.”

Watch it:



Obama’s proposal — which includes $1.6 trillion in increased taxes on the rich over the next decade, $400 billion in savings in Medicare and other social programs, $50 billion in stimulus spending to begin next year, and an end to current debt ceiling rules — is not new or radical: it reflects the very same same policies Obama advanced for years and promoted extensively on the campaign trail.

For instance, Obama’s FY 2013 budget — released in February 2012 — raised “an additional $1.7 trillion in revenue” and proposed $360 billion in savings from entitlement programs, including Medicare and Medicaid. (Comparatively, Simpson-Bowles called for $2.7 trillion revenue over 10 years, more than what Obama requested). Obama advocated for additional stimulative spending throughout the campaign, calling for a path “forward” that will “continue investing in education and infrastructure.”

Republicans are feigning shock that Obama is proposing to implement the very same policies that Americans voted for in November, as they seek to define his second term agenda and bolster their own negotiating position. Meanwhile, they have yet to offer their own detailed proposal to avert the cliff.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/12/01/1268371/republicans-claim-that-obamas-long-time-economic-proposal-represents-a-classic-bait-and-switch/
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Republicans Claim That Obama’s Long Time Economic Proposal Represents A ‘Classic Bait-And-Switch’ (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2012 OP
Yes, so you've been out-maneuvered, so what? nt bemildred Dec 2012 #1
Keep making Obama look good, Hatch-et man MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #2
i'll admit there's a bit of bait-and-switch here. unblock Dec 2012 #3
Apparently, they weren't showing Obama's public speeches in the Fix News Bubble alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #4
Do Republicans care about the debt and deficit or not? high density Dec 2012 #5
Cheney said deficits don't matter LeftInTX Dec 2012 #8
2nd-term Obama is going to be a force with which to reckon... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #6
I guess they really expected him to propose something really radically anti-Democratic Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #7

unblock

(52,197 posts)
3. i'll admit there's a bit of bait-and-switch here.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:10 PM
Dec 2012

his tough negotiating is not what they're used to; i can see why they think this was not as advertised.

so sorry, republicans.


 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
4. Apparently, they weren't showing Obama's public speeches in the Fix News Bubble
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:58 PM
Dec 2012

No wonder these cretins lost. They didn't even bother to try to figure out what Obama was running on!

high density

(13,397 posts)
5. Do Republicans care about the debt and deficit or not?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:13 PM
Dec 2012

They ignored it while Bush was in office, then instantaneously blamed Obama the second he walked into the White House and have been beating that drum ever since. If they do care about the deficit, then they should appreciate that Obama has proposed raising an extra $1.6 trillion in revenue to help alleviate the deficit.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
8. Cheney said deficits don't matter
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:41 PM
Dec 2012

They care when a Dem is president.

When it's a Repug, I don't think they don't care.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
7. I guess they really expected him to propose something really radically anti-Democratic
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:09 PM
Dec 2012

like cutting Social Security/Medicare. If he wants to talk "bait-and-switch" or just general "WTF moments" when it comes to newly re-elected Presidents, why don't we spend a few minutes talking about how George W. Bush campaigned in 2004 on his *credentials* on fighting terrorism ( ) and how we were all going to be vaporized if we voted for Kerry and then his first policy proposal out of the gate was privatizing Social Security whereas President Obama is, well, promoting policies that he actually campaigned on but I guess, as usual, Republicans are choosing to be oblivious to those things called.............facts.

Republicans: If you want to cut Social Security and Medicare, YOU propose the policies and we'll have a vigorous debate about them. Don't expect Democrats (real ones, anyway) to do your dirty work for you!

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