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uawchild

(2,208 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 08:29 PM Nov 2016

National poll finds Clinton, Trump virtually deadlocked

Another national survey shows a near-even race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the final weekend before Election Day.

The former secretary of state has 44% of support among likely voters in a McClatchy-Marist poll released Saturday while the businessman has 43%, within the poll's margin of error.

Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson has 6% of the vote while Green Party nominee Jill Stein garners 2%.

"Although Clinton and Trump are separated by the slimmest of margins, the Electoral College can present a very different picture," said Dr. Lee M. Miringoff, director of The Marist College Institute for Public Opinion. "Close popular votes can, but do not necessarily, translate into tight battles for 270 electoral votes."

http://www.channel4000.com/nation/national-poll-finds-clinton-trump-virtually-deadlocked/144023618

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National poll finds Clinton, Trump virtually deadlocked (Original Post) uawchild Nov 2016 OP
"The Electoral College can present a very different picture" dalton99 Nov 2016 #1
Ground Game people BSdetect Nov 2016 #3
I think this is the poll that has them only 15 pts apart among Latinos. Metric System Nov 2016 #4
More bad news...or so you think...cherry picking bad news polls will not affect the outcome. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #5
Why the snark and rudeness? uawchild Nov 2016 #10
kind of hard to miss the poll threads you're spamming DU with. KittyWampus Nov 2016 #21
4-6 polls a day is too much days before the election? OK... uawchild Nov 2016 #23
Ahh, so now it's GD eh? Kingofalldems Nov 2016 #6
lol obamanut2012 Nov 2016 #7
glad I'm not the only one who noticed. KittyWampus Nov 2016 #22
Can I sit at the cool kids table? lol uawchild Nov 2016 #24
Poll is a couple days old Dem2 Nov 2016 #8
Damn good question. I wonder what the motivation could be for that? Kingofalldems Nov 2016 #9
You didn't read the article! States poll was released TODAY. uawchild Nov 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author uawchild Nov 2016 #12
It's been on 538 for 26 hours Dem2 Nov 2016 #13
You said it was released a couple of days ago. uawchild Nov 2016 #17
Let me deflame this title... ok... Article said poll was released today uawchild Nov 2016 #14
You seem defensive Dem2 Nov 2016 #15
Sorry about that. uawchild Nov 2016 #19
No worries Dem2 Nov 2016 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author uawchild Nov 2016 #18
It might be "close" as far as the total vote count is concerned. But BigDemVoter Nov 2016 #16

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
5. More bad news...or so you think...cherry picking bad news polls will not affect the outcome.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 09:03 PM
Nov 2016

Maybe you should make calls for your candidate.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
10. Why the snark and rudeness?
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 09:37 PM
Nov 2016

Perhaps you missed these recent polls I posted?


Clinton’s 30-point lead in Florida Hispanic poll is ‘terrifying’ to GOP nationwide
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141615726

Poll shows Clinton winning Colorado
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141616382

Hint of Momentum for Clinton, With Issues a Defining Factor (POLL)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251&pid=2589933

New Poll Finds Close Race in Georgia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251&pid=2589933

Election Update: National Polls Show Clinton’s Lead Stabilizing — State Polls, Not So Much
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141617086

Poll: Clinton holds whopping lead over Trump with Hispanics
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251&pid=2589933

Poll: 'Shy Trump' voters are a mirage
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251&pid=2589933

Early voting data in 3 key states show spike in Latino turnout
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141617093

If you missed all those positive polls for Hillary, perhaps you also missed the damning poll I posted on the misogynist tRump.

Here, read it now:

This Is the Bleakest Poll of the 2016 Election


Source: Mother Jones

Throughout the election season, Hillary Clinton has used Donald Trump's record of belittling and rating women based on their physical appearances as evidence that the Republican nominee is a bad role model and unfit to be president of the United States. "Our children are watching," one Clinton ad from July suggested. Another in September featured young women looking in the mirror, while Trump's own words disparaging women played in the background.

A new poll from the Upshot published on Friday appears to confirm Clinton's stark warnings, with nearly half of the teenage girls polled saying that Trump's disparaging remarks have had a negative effect on the way they view their bodies.

"That hits me hard when people like Trump say people who are skinnier than I am are too big," 15-year-old Morgan Lesh told the Times. "It makes me feel extremely insecure about myself."

"Especially for girls in high school rating girls on a scale of 1 to 10 does not help because it really does get into your head that they think I'm ugly or I don't look good," 14-year-old Jordan Barrett said.

The survey's results align with other anecdotes showing Trump's inflammatory remarks resonating with children.

Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/donald-trump-teenage-girls-body-appearances-effect


Thanks, tRump. Destroy more young lives why don't you.
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I posted polls as the came in, the race tightened, opened up some and is now tightening again now.

My posting pattern reflects this.
Many detractors, like you apparently, made accusations of cherry picking bad polls for Hillary as some nefarious scheme. The focused only on the worse results and IGNORED EVERY POLL I POSTED THAT WAS POSITIVE FOR HILLARY. They also ignored, as you have apparently, the negative polls and post I posted about trump.

Nate Silver discussed this trend:

We’re a couple of days removed from the point when almost every poll showed Hillary Clinton on a downward trajectory. Instead, polls over the past 24 hours have been more equivocal. National polls tend to suggest that Donald Trump’s momentum has halted, and that Clinton may even be regaining ground. But Trump is getting his share of good results in state polls, which both show competitive races in some of Clinton’s “firewall” states and favorable trend lines for Trump.
...
But those state polls? Not a lot of good news for Clinton. There’s more data showing a tied race in New Hampshire. And Clinton’s lead in Pennsylvania is down to about 3 percentage points in our forecast. Polls in Michigan have also been tightening, with an unusually large number of undecided voters. Polling in New Mexico has been tight enough that we’re now considering it a “state to watch,” although that may reflect an abundance of caution. Clinton’s numbers have held up better in Wisconsin and Virginia, while the data has been very mixed in Colorado.

Just so you think I’m not cherry-picking, here’s every swing state poll we’ve added since our last Election Update at 7 p.m. last night. It includes the latest state-by-state tracking polls from SurveyMonkey, Ipsos and Pulse Opinion Research.

Read more: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-national-polls-show-clintons-lead-stabilizing-state-polls-not-so-much/


So, you're entitled to your opinion, even when its obviously wrong. I am sure trump loves people who post polls documenting how he is harming young girls. In this case that's me.

Here's the link to that one again :

This Is the Bleakest Poll of the 2016 Election
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141616312

Enjoy your evening.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
23. 4-6 polls a day is too much days before the election? OK...
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 10:38 PM
Nov 2016

Honestly, it's not a lot of polls posted by me. I usually post 4-6 poll posts a day, that's not counting my posts on other topics.

And these started, what, on Wednesday? That's 6 days before the election.

So, posting 6 or so polls per day less than a week before the election is spamming DU?

Let me respectfully disagree with your assertion that I am spamming DU.

Enjoy your evening.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
24. Can I sit at the cool kids table? lol
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 10:48 PM
Nov 2016

Ouch. I feel as if I am back in middle school being bullied by the cool kids. lol

People, its DAYS before the election. Posting a handful of polls a day isn't that painful to you all, is it?

If it is, it will all be over soon. Just two more days till election day, when I will be driving senior citizen democrats to the polls.
That means at most I will only be posting another 8-12 polls, that's 4-6 a day. How bad can that be? Not too much, I hope.

Cheers.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
11. You didn't read the article! States poll was released TODAY.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 09:41 PM
Nov 2016

"Another national survey shows a near-even race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the final weekend before Election Day.

The former secretary of state has 44% of support among likely voters in a McClatchy-Marist poll released Saturday while the businessman has 43%, within the poll's margin of error."

Thats in the FIRST two lines of the OP.

Response to Dem2 (Reply #8)

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
13. It's been on 538 for 26 hours
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 09:47 PM
Nov 2016




And I wasn't questioning you, I was questioning the article CLAIMING it was released today.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
17. You said it was released a couple of days ago.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 09:54 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Sat Nov 5, 2016, 11:10 PM - Edit history (3)

I did not see this poll anywhere yesterday, if 538 cited results from it 26 hours ago either they got a pre-release or the reporting was sloppy. Let me see if I can see what the actual poll says.

The Marist polling website has this listed as an 11/4 poll, that's yesterday. But it has an article about in posted on 11/5 that sounds a lot like the OP article. So either the reporter was off slightly on the polls release date, or copies of the poll were released today. So, the poll might be a day old and the reporter was off by a few hours. Checking on this more, the latter seem the case, the reporter seems to have confused the article's date with the poll's real release date the day before.


Cheers

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
14. Let me deflame this title... ok... Article said poll was released today
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 09:48 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Sat Nov 5, 2016, 10:40 PM - Edit history (2)

The very first two lines of the article state so:

"Another national survey shows a near-even race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the final weekend before Election Day.

The former secretary of state has 44% of support among likely voters in a McClatchy-Marist poll released Saturday while the businessman has 43%, within the poll's margin of error."

Pollsters poll repeatedly. You might have seem a similar poll conducted days ago, but pollsters continue to poll to track the election.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
19. Sorry about that.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 10:25 PM
Nov 2016

Perhaps you saying the poll was a couple of days old threw me some.

The article said it was released today.

In actuality, the poll might be a day old and the reporter made an error.

Let me apologize for my "gotcha" tone in replying to you. The person replying to your post before me has been impugning my integrity and did so again there, sorry for thinking you were also doing that.

Response to Dem2 (Reply #8)

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
16. It might be "close" as far as the total vote count is concerned. But
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 09:54 PM
Nov 2016

what matters here are the electoral votes, and tRump has very, very little chance of flipping any states that matter. HRC's ground game is extraordinary & tRump virtually doesn't have one at all.

Furthermore, many, many people have voted early, so polls at this point should be taken with a grain of salt

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