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Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:46 PM

 

The single biggest thing that killed Hillary was the email scandal

I think it was bogus, most Dems do too.

But MANY people really think she broke the law and got off by being an elite in the government (never mind Trump's own corruption).

Nonetheless, maybe it was a huge mistake for Bernie to blow it off early on in the primaries.

If he'd taken it seriously, perhaps he could've won, or gotten her to have a better explanation for it.

Granted, I think there were so many factors against her, and I think she was royally screwed no matter what-- the election was rigged. But it is ironic that Bernie shot down the one thing that could've helped him and maybe helped us win.

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Reply The single biggest thing that killed Hillary was the email scandal (Original post)
Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 OP
CanonRay Nov 2016 #1
NCTraveler Nov 2016 #2
Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #3
NCTraveler Nov 2016 #6
LisaM Nov 2016 #7
Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #9
Va Lefty Nov 2016 #4
DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #5
Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #8
Va Lefty Nov 2016 #11
LisaM Nov 2016 #12
lake loon Nov 2016 #15
Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #17
Hekate Nov 2016 #10
MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 #13
NRaleighLiberal Nov 2016 #14
lake loon Nov 2016 #16
Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #18
NRaleighLiberal Nov 2016 #19

Response to Fast Walker 52 (Original post)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:51 PM

1. You are correct, most Dems think it was bullshit

including Bernie.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Original post)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:51 PM

2. Bernie didn't blow it off in whole.

 

He made his comment yet it was still a daily issue by other, including his surrogates. Sanders doesn't have the power you are attempting to give him credit for here. He benefited greatly from the server issue. Greatly.

Sanders ran a brilliant campaign. It wasn't enough. He could not have done better.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:53 PM

3. he didn't capitalize on it as much as he could have

 

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:56 PM

6. I believe he did.

 

There was nowhere for him to go on that one. It would have been like Clinton capitalizing on Sanders rape fantasy essay. Simply stupid. Sanders backed off while his surrogates carried it for him. He had no other options.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:57 PM

7. CAPITALIZE on it????

I'm not the biggest Bernie fan in the world, but it was greatly to his credit that he ignored this, as well he should have.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:59 PM

9. I agree it was to his credit, I just thought it was ironic

 

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Original post)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:53 PM

4. The media did the same thing to her that they did to Gore in 2000 and we got the same result

a popular vote win and an electoral vote loss.

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:55 PM

5. and the same thing they did to Kerry as well

although Kerry didn't win the popular vote. But still, the media is very much complicit in this mess. So are all the "I told you so" jerks.

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:58 PM

8. agree totally

 

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:05 PM

11. What I can't wrap my head around is 53% of white women voted for trump

In what world does that make any God damned sense!!

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:07 PM

12. They are the same women who voted for Bush and McCain and Romney

The number just didn't budge. It's the stay-at-home vote that was the problem.

You'd think the number would shift, but it just didn't. Because sexism really is that ingrained.

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:30 PM

15. If that's true, it's only, only, only ...

 

because of abortion. The fundie wackos would vote for bucket of opossum tails if it was against abortion.

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:05 PM

17. conservatism is a strong drug, apparently

 

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Original post)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:01 PM

10. Since she WON by a million votes and still counting, the biggest thing was the Electoral College

If Bernie still wants to lead a revolution, he can start with that, and lead his loyal followers in getting the necessary Constitutional amendment passed.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Original post)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:14 PM

13. I agree ... And Comey made it worse

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Original post)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:17 PM

14. It was the media. False equivalence. They utterly failed.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:32 PM

16. So true.

 

Heard it every day on supposed MSM. Every newscast began with the word "Trump." Every newscast connected the words "Hillary" and "scandal." There was hardly ever a mention of any issues or policy.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:05 PM

18. unless they actually WANTED Trump

 

he's still great for their ratings...

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:16 PM

19. if not the various talking heads, certainly those who own the media. Of course they wanted Trump.

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