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Sun Nov 20, 2016, 10:28 AM

There are other things to learn if we're ever going to return to majority party status:

We need to address the 49% of those who didn't vote. To that end, we have to tell non-voters that Americans disengaged by this country's political process have to remember a couple of things:

1. There is no giving up. Millennials and everyone else will have to learn that control of politics is control of whole economies and militaries.

2. If we give up we will never have majority political control again of anything that matters for the betterment of people. Nor will our politics control any other economic sectors. California has known that. This is now about whether future generations control their landbase resources, or whether the future inhabitants' landbase is controlled by global forces.

3. We now face what many developing countries face, only on a larger scale and with varied political/historical context. We didn't see how voting mechanisms and money beat out hearts and minds politics. But now we have to because we can't go back to what didn't work.

4. We're down but we're not out. Every single Democratic 'interest group' -- women, Millennials, LGBTQ, minorities, the elderly, kids, ALL the disenfranchised -- can join with the other groups to focus our party, our money and expertise at state levels enough to beat them at their own game. We can do this!

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ancianita Nov 2016 OP
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Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:01 AM

1. We won the election but for the EC. The media bears the entire blame for this debacle. nt

 

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Response to duffyduff (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 20, 2016, 11:21 AM

2. The facts and structure of state by state voter numbers show something more solid that didn't

depend on media. This really isn't always going to be only about hearts and minds, he said/she said identity politics as much as we've been led to believe it was. That's how we lost.

Your analysis has to take into account the numbers that everyone didn't see. Media is still trying to sort out how Democrats lost. I'm not about that anymore.

Media didn't institute the state by state partisan vote counts, voter roll purges, voter access or undetected voting machine irregularities.

I'm about learning how the Republicans won. Media didn't do it for them. Operatives and money did. And they didn't even need a real ground game.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 20, 2016, 12:17 PM

4. You really don't get it. You don't know what went down with this election at all.

 

You don't even have a clue what happened at all.

The media CREATED Donald Trump the candidate and did it intentionally for ratings and ad revenue.

THAT is where the blame is.

Stop blaming the Democrats. They had nothing to do with this debacle.

One of many, many articles about the unseemly relationship between the media bigwigs and Trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/jeff-zuckers-singular-role-in-promoting-donald-trumps-rise/2016/10/02/7c3d4366-865b-11e6-a3ef-f35afb41797f_story.html

You can engage in handwringing all you want and give a lot of useless advice, but you are willfully ignoring the truth of this election. Silly posts trying to lecture me about the "state-by-state analysis" when I know full well what went on during those GOP primaries and the election itself I just laugh off.

This was NOT an ordinary election.

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