2008 Barack Obama would not be surprised by Trump's win.

[geek tragedy]

You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/04/obama-on-small-town-pa-clinging-to-religion-guns-xenophobia-007737

Those communities did not regenerate under the Obama administration either, and that was a big factor in the election.

Trump will now face the same pressures, and he'll undoubtedly fail to bring jobs back to these places.

At some point someone will have to figure this shit out. It's getting dangerous to have vast swaths of the country degenerate into blight and dystopia.

[Ace Rothstein]

1. We need an UBI.

And we need to stress education to young people in these areas whether it is getting a degree or learning a trade. There aren't many jobs left you can walk into without an education now and there are going to be even fewer going forward.

[geek tragedy]

2. UBI is the absolutely worst thing we can propose in these areas.

"Hey, we don't have jobs for you, but we are going to put everyone on welfare!"

Not going to fly.

The key is figuring out how to bring back good jobs.

[Ace Rothstein]

5. Good jobs arent returning to these areas unless we ban imports and robotics.

[atreides1]

3. You can forget that idea

If Trump's pick for Education Secretary is true, education in these areas will lessen not increase!


http://www.salon.com/2016/11/23/donald-trumps-inverted-totalitarianism-too-bad-we-didnt-heed-sheldon-wolins-warnings/


Unless her brother, Erik Prince is looking for mercenary recruits, then those young people will be taught how to kill other people, to include torture and rape!!!

[NewJeffCT]

7. UBI?

This is what google gave me?

UBI United Bank of India
UBI Unrelated Business Income
UBI Unified Business Identifier
UBI United Bicycle Institute
UBI UKW-Sprechfunkzeugnis für den Binnenschifffahrtsfunk (German: internationally valid radio certification)
UBI United Business Institutes
UBI Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation
UBI Unexplained Beer Injury
UBI Ultrasonic Borehole Imager (Schlumberger borehole logging tool)
UBI Useless Bits of Information
UBI Unified Business ID (Washington)
UBI Unidentified Beer Injury

[Ace Rothstein]

10. Universal Basic Income

Although Unexplained Beer Injury sounds intriguing.

[EL34x4]

11. With a Universal Basic Income...

...comes the Unexplained Beer Injuries.

[Wellstone ruled]

4. As someone who left Rural America

because of the Hand Writing On the Wall,I look at the Region I grew up in. The Region was very Liberal until post Vietnam War. Now it is Ultra Conservative and struggling with poverty and drug issues. In a Conversation with a friend who still lives there,asked the question,just what can someone do to revitalize the Region,his answer,who the heck would build some type of manufacturing or skill based business when you are a Hundred miles from nowhere.

In that statement,one can put that scenario in many of the Upper Midwest States. If you do not have a viable infrastructure,it is a non workable situation.

[geek tragedy]

6. it's something we have to figure out.

having huge portions of the country in a permanent state of decay and stagnation is dangerous.

[Wellstone ruled]

8. Until the Powers that be

invest in Regions with make work projects that will last at least for one Generation until some type of Wiget Manufacturing of usable Tech operation. Has to be Socialist Solution to a Privatized Night Mare.

With Trump and his group of outlaws,this is not going to happen.

[scscholar]

9. Thought this would be about not winning the PV...

which he didn't in the primary in 2008. That gave unfair advantage to him over Hillary like happened again to her.

[forjusticethunders]

12. You basically need a Second New Deal.

MASSIVE infrastructure programs, basically on the scale of what China is trying to do (and for the same reason, people don't realize that regime is *barely* hanging on), new roads, industrial and passenger rail transit to and from rural communities, repair and renovation of vital infrastructure, massive expansion of internet service.

If I wanted to put that into a concrete reality, I should be able to hop on a train in L'Enfant Plaza in DC, take that train through Mountain Lake Park, Maryland, Charleston, West VA, Wilmington, Ohio, and end up in Chicago Illinois, all the while being able to have free, stable Wi-Fi the entire trip.