Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:07 PM

Farmgirl1961 (1,463 posts)

Palmer Report update:Michigan recount:officials admit majority of Detroit precincts have incorrect

Michigan recount: officials admit majority of Detroit precincts have incorrect ballot totals

Just one day after a federal judge ordered that the state of Michigan recount its ballots in the 2016 presidential election to check for accuracy, officials are now claiming they can’t recount the ballots in the most pivotal city, because they screwed up the process too thoroughly the first time around. In fact, by their own admission, the majority of precincts in Detroit had ballot totals in the precinct poll books which didn’t match those of the voting machines.

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Palmer Report update:Michigan recount:officials admit majority of Detroit precincts have incorrect (Original post)	Farmgirl1961	Dec 2016	OP
Yeah that rule sounds unconstitutional!	Madam45for2923	Dec 2016	#1
This isn't good as state law dictates that the affected precincts be disqualified	NWCorona	Dec 2016	#2
is Stein challenging this provision in federal court?	JustinL	Dec 2016	#3
I wonder if this is of help? The judge that ordered the recount could help maybe?	KewlKat	Dec 2016	#4
Will see! Should help!	Madam45for2923	Dec 2016	#7
If they can't certify the state, remove state Electoral College votes, readjust the EC total needed.	TheBlackAdder	Dec 2016	#5
Because Detroit election leaders screwed up?	yeoman6987	Dec 2016	#6
Wtf. You can't claim stupidity and sweep it under the rug.	AgadorSparticus	Dec 2016	#8
If a state cannot conduct an election properly, we have a Yuuuge problem.	Coyotl	Dec 2016	#9
I think the law is the problem in this case	FBaggins	Dec 2016	#10

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Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:13 PM

Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)

1. Yeah that rule sounds unconstitutional!

Bizarre!

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Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:28 PM

NWCorona (8,541 posts)

2. This isn't good as state law dictates that the affected precincts be disqualified

from the recount and the original totals to be used instead.

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Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:57 PM

JustinL (722 posts)

3. is Stein challenging this provision in federal court?

In Bush v Gore, the Supreme Court ruled that ballots cannot be subjected to "arbitrary and disparate treatment" during the recount process. I'm having a really hard time discerning any sort of rational basis for excluding these precincts from the recount.

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Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:58 PM

KewlKat (5,377 posts)

4. I wonder if this is of help? The judge that ordered the recount could help maybe?

And yet, as of this moment, Michigan is flat out insisting that the ballots in 392 of the 662 precincts in Detroit simply can’t be recounted. As if to bluntly underscore the embarrassing nature of the Michigan 2016 election situation, the elections director for the city of Detroit admitted to local newspaper The Detroit News that “It’s not good” and went on to explain that eighty-seven vote counting machines broke on election day. This should come as news to the federal judge who already mandated that the recount take place; if he chooses to, he can rule that the Michigan laws covering this matter are unconstitutional, and force these votes to be recounted in accordance with his original ruling.

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Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:28 PM

Madam45for2923 (7,178 posts)

7. Will see! Should help!

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Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:06 PM

TheBlackAdder (26,573 posts)

5. If they can't certify the state, remove state Electoral College votes, readjust the EC total needed.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:28 PM

yeoman6987 (14,449 posts)

6. Because Detroit election leaders screwed up?

I think they need to investigate what the heck happened in Detroit. Talk about voter disenfranchisement. This is wrong wrong wrong!

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Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:26 PM

AgadorSparticus (7,963 posts)

8. Wtf. You can't claim stupidity and sweep it under the rug.

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:37 AM

Coyotl (15,262 posts)

9. If a state cannot conduct an election properly, we have a Yuuuge problem.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:41 AM

FBaggins (25,901 posts)

10. I think the law is the problem in this case

Just look at the ongoing recount in WI as an example. It isn't uncommon for one out of every four or five precincts to have a small correction (usually one or two votes). It can almost always be reconciled in a recount... but in MI it blocks the recount!

It's likely that the issue will be moot (though still fodder for conspiracy theories) soon... but that law needs to be corrected.

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