Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:43 PM

Farmgirl1961 (1,463 posts)

Palmer Report: Chaos: Michigan court rules recount must end, as Federal court rules it must continue

Chaos: Michigan court rules recount must end, as Federal court rules it must continue

So now what? On the same evening in which Michigan’s Republican Attorney General was publicly celebrating the seeming end of the statewide recount thanks to a ruling from a Michigan state appeals court, those in favor of the recount were celebrating a ruling from a federal appeals court which ruled that the recount must continue. The initially conflicting headlines have now been resolved, as the two courts issued opposite rulings in near simultaneous fashion and created a wave of confusion.

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Palmer Report: Chaos: Michigan court rules recount must end, as Federal court rules it must continue (Original post)	Farmgirl1961	Dec 2016	OP
Yet another faulty report from Mr Palmer	FBaggins	Dec 2016	#1
And the answer is???	triron	Dec 2016	#2
Probably the state Supreme Court	FBaggins	Dec 2016	#3
I assume the Feds didn't answer a question they weren't asked??	Hassin Bin Sober	Dec 2016	#5
The federal court is supreme over state in its district, but not the other districts.	jfern	Dec 2016	#4
from Detroit News	womanofthehills	Dec 2016	#6
Thank you!	Lucinda	Dec 2016	#7
So, if the board denies the recount...is that the end of it?	Farmgirl1961	Dec 2016	#8
According to Huffington Post right now - the recount continues	womanofthehills	Dec 2016	#9
The final decision will be up to the state judge. Federal sided with trump to halt it, but	jmg257	Dec 2016	#10

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:04 AM

FBaggins (25,901 posts)

1. Yet another faulty report from Mr Palmer

The Federal court did not rule that it must continue. It ruled that the early start was appropriate (given the need to complete in time for electoral votes to be cast) , but that the state courts control whether to recount at all. They explicitly avoided ruling on whether the recounts were appropriate.

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:07 AM

triron (21,089 posts)

2. And the answer is???

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:24 AM

FBaggins (25,901 posts)

3. Probably the state Supreme Court

It's most likely that the recount will stop tomorrow morning based on the state appeals court ruling and will then be appealed to the MI Supreme Court. I think they're 5-2 Republican, so the chances are not great.

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:31 AM

Hassin Bin Sober (25,617 posts)

5. I assume the Feds didn't answer a question they weren't asked??

Can it go back to Feds based on federal laws/rights?

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:27 AM

jfern (5,204 posts)

4. The federal court is supreme over state in its district, but not the other districts.

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:50 AM

womanofthehills (7,493 posts)

6. from Detroit News

Federal, state courts duel over Michigan’s recount

The dueling court rulings came as recount operations continued in eight Michigan counties, including Ingham County where officials expected to finish Tuesday night after a day and a half of counting ballots.

“In the interim, we will keep recounting,” said Chris Thomas, the state’s elections director.

Mark Brewer, a Southfield attorney representing Stein, noted neither the state or federal appeals courts ordered the recount to stop, suggesting the state Board of Canvassers cannot do so either.

The board is scheduled to meet at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/06/gop-recount-michigan/95031944/

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:56 AM

Lucinda (30,924 posts)

7. Thank you!

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:03 AM

Farmgirl1961 (1,463 posts)

8. So, if the board denies the recount...is that the end of it?

It all seems so fishy and fraught with vote tampering and suppression. I doubt we'll ever get to the bottom of it.

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 03:07 AM

womanofthehills (7,493 posts)

9. According to Huffington Post right now - the recount continues

Also for those putting down Palmer:

Bill Palmer - Facebook

People who have vouched for my reporting: Governors Jennifer Granholm and Howard Dean. MSNBC host Joy-Ann Reid. CNN host Chris Cuomo. NBC analysts Lisa Bloom and Malcolm Nance. Congressman Joaquin Castro. Oh, and President Obama follows me on Twitter.

The leading voices who insist I'm putting out "fake" news: some grad student pretending to be a professor. Some religion blog. Some knitting blog.

I like my chances

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Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:52 AM

jmg257 (11,996 posts)

10. The final decision will be up to the state judge. Federal sided with trump to halt it, but

didn't intervene to stop it.

"The panel of judges on Michigan’s Court of Appeals accepted Schuette’s and Trump’s arguments that Stein, who came in a distant fourth place in Michigan, was not an “aggrieved” party with standing to challenge the election results.

At the same time, the judges appeared to acknowledge that their order would not take effect in light of Goldsmith’s original ruling, the Detroit Free Press reported.

The challenge to the recount will now head back to Goldsmith."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/federal-court-jill-stein-michigan-recount_us_58475ce8e4b0d0df1836f54a

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