WE CAN STOP TRUMP - EC petition

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be overridden in Congress. I have been pointing this out since November 9th, and the Constitution certainly has not changed since then. This and all the hundreds of other posts on the same subject are tilting at windmills.

Only ways Trump will not be President come January 20th are his early demise or smoking gun, irrefutable massive evidence of actual vote THEFT (not suppression) across multiple states. Probably would need someone to cop to it too. Neither will happen.

We need to move on and come to terms with the fact that we are losing badly. I've said it numerous times already; they have the presidency, house, senate, plus most state legislatures and governorships.

What we have been doing has not been working.

We need to change.

We need to broaden the base, refine our message, adjust some peripheral positions that have been hurting us, and generally get our act together.

Yes, people will trumpet Hillary's lead in the popular vote. To me that underscores our need to expand our base, particularly geographically. Lets face it, there are ZERO straight up nationwide popular voted on offices. For every single elected office, geography matters. Yes, we have a lot of support... in a tiny area (major metros). And very little support elsewhere.

Spot on post!

I understand people need hope, but I tend to be reality based.

theft would keep the GOP House from installing Twitler as POTUS. After all, if war criminals can go free and an undercover CIA agent can be outed without consequences, why does anyone expect the GOP to withhold the Presidency from Trump over election theft? Really?

Why is it that we cling to every Stupid long long shot, and get all excited, only knowing in the back of our head that nothing is gonna happen.... I don't understand, we should look to the mid terms, but honestly I fear we will still be too busy bitching about DT and trying to find ways to remove him, etc..... for us to even have a chance in hell during the midterms we need to focus on it and actually get off our asses and vote.... something we traditionally don't do at the mid cycles... honestly I look at it this way,,, who cares who the president is..... the real control is the senate and house.... it's what we should always focus on..... then we win.....

This was a shock for everyone, and this forum--as long as it lasts, is to get it out of our systems. A lot of bitter feelings reside here, and It's not a pleasant place right now. Democrats are already planning for 2018 and 2020, trust me.