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Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:33 PM

Russian Interference Could Give Courts Legal Authority To Install Clinton

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A 1995 federal court ruling out of Pennsylvania may offer some clues to Clinton supporters as to possible legal authority for removing an elected official from office and replacing them with their erstwhile opponent.
In light of late-breaking reports Friday evening that Russians interfered with the 2016 presidential election to assist Donald Trump’s victory, Clinton supporters are furiously in pursuit of remedies.

At 10:45 p.m. Friday evening, the Washington Post broke an explosive story alleging that Russians had interfered with the 2016 presidential election in order to assist Donald Trump in a victory over democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. The story reveals that a CIA assessment detailing this conclusion had been presented to President Obama and top congressional leaders last week.

The development has Clinton supporters and other concerned Americans confused and hot in pursuit of potential remedies. No clear constitutional remedy exists to halt the certification of the outcome. Article II of the U.S. Constitution vests Congress with the power to determine the date by which the Electoral College will cast their votes, presently set for December 19. In recent weeks, a massive online movement asking members of the Electoral College to become “faithless” or “conscientious” electors and to vote for Clinton instead of Trump has garnered national attention.

The electors would be well within their constitutional authority to do so, say groups like Hamilton’s Electors, which claims that the purpose of the Electoral College is to prevent demagogues like Mr. Trump from assuming the nation’s highest office. A petition urging the Electoral College to make Hillary Clinton president has gained nearly 5 million signatures.

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Reply Russian Interference Could Give Courts Legal Authority To Install Clinton (Original post)
Stellar Dec 2016 OP
uponit7771 Dec 2016 #1
UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #2
SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2016 #6
RonniePudding Dec 2016 #11
Stellar Dec 2016 #13
ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2016 #3
flamingdem Dec 2016 #4
DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #5
mopinko Dec 2016 #7
2naSalit Dec 2016 #8
mopinko Dec 2016 #10
2naSalit Dec 2016 #16
mopinko Dec 2016 #17
Exilednight Dec 2016 #23
mopinko Dec 2016 #24
pangaia Dec 2016 #26
TrekLuver Dec 2016 #9
RonniePudding Dec 2016 #12
speaktruthtopower Dec 2016 #15
duffyduff Dec 2016 #14
Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #18
triron Dec 2016 #19
briv1016 Dec 2016 #20
duffyduff Dec 2016 #21
briv1016 Dec 2016 #22
triron Dec 2016 #25

Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:35 PM

1. But Clinton et al are be "non partisan" or some bullshit

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:36 PM

2. Or have new elections

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:37 PM

6. There is no Constitutional provision

for "new elections".

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 02:32 PM

11. It's interesting this was never considered by the founders

 

It seems like something that might have been needed at that time more than it would be in our time, yet there is no provision.

The founders were kind of overrated IMO.

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Response to RonniePudding (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:26 PM

13. Overrated, perhaps...but I too thought this should have come out back then, nt

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:36 PM

3. K&R nt

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:37 PM

4. If the dems can't work this they have failed us

Do NOT roll over!

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:37 PM

5. K&R!

The EC needs to do the right thing. I'm not hopeful that they will.

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:47 PM

7. a question about process-

just how does the voting happen? are there actual ballots? are they cast at state meetings of some kind?
is there any face to face?
what i am getting at is are they a group, or are they just isolated individuals?

it would sure make me feel better if i thought these people communicated at all.

i hope you guys all read your oath and checked it twice.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 02:27 PM

10. doesnt really answer the question.

more looking for the culture and past of the process.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:19 PM

16. Thanks...

I didn't have time to dive in to that info, had to go do some chores.

So that's the issue with much of the original documentation, its subject to interpretation which in this case could be dangerous.

What I got from what I did read is that the EC has a process and it was described there. As for the SCOTUS, I didn't get anything specific other than they are required to protect the Constitution and our (we citizens) best interests. IMHO this current set of issues warrant intervention from the one branch that is not directly involved in the election since they are all appointed. But they screwed us last time in 2000 so there's that.

I am tempted to turn prepper and go find a cave.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:30 PM

17. i pointed out the money to be made in the bomb shelter boom

that will surely begin dec 20 if the electors dont save us.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:07 PM

23. It's fairly simple.

Hillary won New York so all of the electorates representing NY are chosen by the Hillary campaign. They're sent to DC where they actually cast a vote I'm the EC. The Senate majority leader reads each vote publicly for the record and the winner of 270 EVs becomes President of the United States.

The same process is repeated for VP.

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Response to Exilednight (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:08 PM

24. ah. so. they have to actually stand and deliver, eh?

hmmmm. well that usually brings out the hero in some folks.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:06 AM

26. LOL !!!

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 02:08 PM

9. Wasn't a major purpose of the electoral college is to vote on the behalf of the people who really

 

couldn't make a sound decision themselves. This is a prime example of why electors need to step in and say I must disregard Trashpot votes and do what is right for the country. His cabinet picks prove that period. That's all these electors need to step in.

Now this TILLERSON GUY...........FUMING.

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Response to TrekLuver (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 02:34 PM

12. Most electors are party hacks

 

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Response to TrekLuver (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:50 PM

15. I don't think so..

it dates back to the times when it took weeks for news of election results to spread, and for the electors to gather in one place to make sense of things.

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 08:47 PM

14. The EC should do it, but you know the partisan hacks won't.

 

Any Republican, even one controlled by the Russians, is better than a Democrat. Especially a woman Democrat. Especially THIS woman Democrat.

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Response to duffyduff (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:25 PM

18. Right! :((((. But can you imagine what the dispicables would do if we put Clinton in office?

They would start a civil war!

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:26 PM

19. knr

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:32 PM

20. We would be looking at another Civil War.

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Response to briv1016 (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:43 PM

21. Let the babies riot.

 

It doubt it would happen to any great extent. Fake worries about a "civil war" if HRC got in is just an excuse for the electors to do the wrong thing.

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Response to duffyduff (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:48 PM

22. It's not the riots I'm worried about.

It's the bombing and small arms attacks on soft targets along with assassinations. Think more of a Middle East type war.

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Response to Stellar (Original post)

Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:37 AM

25. knr

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