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Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:09 PM

A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinton

Washington Post, Kiersten Schmidt and Wilson Andrews

The Electoral College on Monday voted for Donald J. Trump to win the presidency. Seven electors, the most ever, voted for someone other than their party’s nominee.


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In Washington, a state where Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont had strong support in the Democratic primary against Hillary Clinton, three of the state’s 12 electoral votes went to Colin L. Powell, the Republican former secretary of state. One more elector voted for Faith Spotted Eagle, a Native American leader. Another Democratic elector in Hawaii voted for Mr. Sanders.


Over 2% of Hillary's electors were 'faithless' to the bitter end.

Kind of explains Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, doesn't it?

Or did the Russians screw it up?


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/19/us/elections/electoral-college-results.html?ref=politics&_r=0

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Reply A Historic Number of Electors Defected, and Most Were Supposed to Vote for Clinton (Original post)
yallerdawg Dec 2016 OP
SidDithers Dec 2016 #1
yallerdawg Dec 2016 #2
SaschaHM Dec 2016 #3
yallerdawg Dec 2016 #4
SaschaHM Dec 2016 #5
KT2000 Dec 2016 #6
yallerdawg Dec 2016 #7

Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:15 PM

1. It explains the fucked up caucus system in Washington state...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:19 PM

2. Colin Powell and Faith Spotted Owl?

That has nothing to do with the Washington caucus system.

But if that's the justification - whatever.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:33 PM

3. There were already issues before the GE of 2 BoB electors refusing to cast their EV for HRC.

They were empowered to do so because Sanders winning the caucus allowed him and his delegates more control at the state party level even though HRC won the Washington primary with a much higher turnout.

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Response to SaschaHM (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:37 PM

4. That's the point.

And they didn't cast their votes for Bernie.

So who knows what point they were making?

Except - now we have Precedent Trump.

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:46 PM

5. The elector who cast his vote for Faith Spotted Eagle was clear in the point that he was making.

He had made it clear long before the election that he would not be voting for Clinton. The only way he actually became a elector is because of the caucus that didn't accurately reflect the will of the Democratic voters in the state. I'll give you the, 3 Colin Powell ones, but the Faith Spotted Eagle guy is a problem that would not have occurred if HRC's support in the state as shown in the higher turnout primary was accurately reflected in the delegates elected to attend the state convention.

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Response to SaschaHM (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:53 PM

6. Satiacum's reasons - the Faith Spotted Owl

voter has changed his reasons for not voting HRC. I believe he just wanted attention.

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Response to SaschaHM (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:58 PM

7. I'm sure there are "points" made in voting all the time.

There were a number of Bernie supporters who voted in our Democratic primaries and caucuses across the country who had a point to make - and now, "it is what it is."

But as a Democrat, representing Democrats, I do not understand what point could be made voting for nothing?

This is like an exit poll - and just enough "Democrats" turned to statistically give the election to the Republican.

That is my point.

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