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Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:26 PM

The Big Con should be arrested...

Donald J. Trump should be investigated, formally charged and indicted for treason if this turns out to be true. His connections to Vladimir Putin and the FSB should be given a serious look by Congress with the same vigor displayed by Trey Gowdy when his committee investigated Hillary Clinton on Benghazi. Which, in fact, found absolutely nothing that could be considered criminal by any court in this country.

Call the Senate Ethics Committee at 202-224-2981 ask them to investigate Herr Gropenfuhrer until the investigation is complete! You can leave a message on their voicemail.

The definition of treason: 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the U.S. penal code. ~Patrick

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Reply The Big Con should be arrested... (Original post)
pbmus Dec 2016 OP
Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #1
stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #2
Marengo Dec 2016 #3
pbmus Dec 2016 #4
AmericanActivist Dec 2016 #5
brooklynite Dec 2016 #6
dionysus Dec 2016 #15
Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #7
mountain grammy Dec 2016 #18
ffr Dec 2016 #8
ehrnst Dec 2016 #9
bdamomma Dec 2016 #10
safeinOhio Dec 2016 #11
dionysus Dec 2016 #14
LisaM Dec 2016 #26
safeinOhio Dec 2016 #27
world wide wally Dec 2016 #12
bdamomma Dec 2016 #13
BainsBane Dec 2016 #16
orangecrush Dec 2016 #19
gopiscrap Dec 2016 #28
orangecrush Dec 2016 #29
eggplant Dec 2016 #17
mopinko Dec 2016 #21
onenote Dec 2016 #24
onenote Dec 2016 #23
Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #20
totodeinhere Dec 2016 #22
mtnsnake Dec 2016 #25

Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:30 PM

1. YES

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:33 PM

2. YES!

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:33 PM

3. What kind of response did you receive? Does a live human answer, or does the call go to VM?

 

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Response to Marengo (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:35 PM

4. Voicemail, you can leave a message..nt

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:18 PM

5. K n R nm

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:24 PM

6. You have two witnesses?

Per the Constitutional n, that or a confession is the only way to convict.

That said, it our Constitution Law Profesor in Chief isn't claiming there's a case here, I'm not getting worked up about this.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:40 PM

15. No witnesses, just batshit theories that would make alex jones proud.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:29 PM

7. Yes! Do to him what they did/doing to Manning.

Strip him, laugh, lower the temp, shackle to wall in solitary. Oh, and since he wanted to bring back waterboarding and much worse, since waterboarding is for p*says according to Trump, do some really bad stuff we know they did in Iraq and around the world!

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:07 PM

18. I'd be ok with that.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:29 PM

8. Gonna have to include members of the FBI too.

They love how Russia helped win the election for them too. Comey? Giuliani with his October Surprise news, big news that will be coming out in a few days...how did he know what FBI knew in early October???

LOCK THEM ALL UP!

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:31 PM

9. Still waiting on certain 'leaders" to utter a single word about this.

Not going to hold my breath.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:40 PM

10. K&R

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:52 PM

11. This has been my guess all along.

Congress can't impeach him because of the backlash from the teabags.
Their only way out is to have the CIA/FBI charge him with treason and hang him.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:37 PM

14. Yeah, go full nazi!

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 05:58 PM

26. I don't believe in the death penalty

but I wouldn't mind seeing him languishing in the pokey for a few years.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 06:11 PM

27. Neither do I Lisa. I'm just predicting

What the PTB might plan. I'd be happier seeing him spending the rest of his life in the poky.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:03 PM

12. Let the trial begin!

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:46 PM

16. My mom's theory about why Trump won't take intelligence briefings

She says, "of course he doesn't want to meet with the CIA; they have his number." She believes Trump conspired with the Russians and the CIA knows all about it.

Seems plausible to me. There is no rational reason to refuse intelligence briefings. It makes him negligent in any terrorist attack. Something isn't right there.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:09 PM

19. I believe your Mom is correct

And I might add, there is NOTHING right about Trump.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 29, 2016, 03:16 AM

28. Welcome to DU

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #28)

Thu Dec 29, 2016, 06:35 PM

29. Thanks

We are going to need to support each other after January 20th.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:56 PM

17. I think the key word here is "enemies".

Is Russia our enemy?

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Response to eggplant (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 02:05 PM

21. well there is that pesky nato thing.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 03:58 PM

24. what "pesky nato thing" are you referring to?

This is from NATO's website:

•NATO and Russia have profound and persistent disagreements; however, the Alliance does not seek confrontation and poses no threat to Russia.

Doesn't sound like NATO has declared or even considers Russia an "enemy".

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Response to eggplant (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 03:55 PM

23. as a matter of law, Russia almost certainly is not an "enemy" of the United States

We have many disagreements with Russia (as we do with many other countries to varying degrees), but that doesn't make them an "enemy" as a legal matter.

Courts looking at the concept of "treason" would not give enemy a broader reading than it is given elsewhere in law (and might give it a narrower reading).

Thus, for example, the courts likely would take into consideration the definition found in title 50 of the US Code (War and National Defense): Section 2204: "the term "enemy" means any country, government, group, or person that has been engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States."

The term "hostilities" is not defined in title 50, but it is defined in title 10 (Armed Forces). Section 948a - "The term “hostilities” means any conflict subject to the laws of war."

Our differences with Russia do not amount to a conflict subject to the laws of war.

As I've pointed out several times, treason is a very narrowly defined, very infrequently prosecuted offense. Among those not prosecuted for treason: the Rosenbergs (convicted, arguably unfairly, of espionage), John Walker Lindh, Aldrich Ames, Robert Hanssen, Edward Snowden....the list is actually quite long.

There is absolutely no chance that Trump will be prosecuted for "treason" nor would there be any chance of him being convicted if such a prosecution was brought. Crimes may have been committed by the Russians and its even possible that Trump was in some way complicit, but even that wouldn't mean he would or could be charged with or convicted of treason.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:15 PM

20. Put him in jail by all means. Lock him up!

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 02:30 PM

22. If he is going to be arrested it better be soon. Once he is sworn in he will

have immunity from prosecution. The only recourse then would be impeachment and conviction by a Republican controlled Congress, which is very unlikely.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 05:52 PM

25. When he gets arrested there will be dancing in the streets

% Calling out around the world, are you ready for a brand new beat? %

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