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No Shit... (Original Post) pbmus Dec 2016 OP
Exactly. elleng Dec 2016 #1
In a sane country, California gives HRC the victory Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #2
I agree, the EC is unconstitutional... what ever happened to one person, one vote?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #3
Except that it is Constitutional... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #8
Bwahahahaha! Yurovsky Dec 2016 #10
It might be undemocratic, but it's constitutional... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #11
Duh. triron Dec 2016 #4
no shit MFM008 Dec 2016 #5
E.c. Drumron Dec 2016 #6
National popular vote pbmus Dec 2016 #7
Nope... Drumron Dec 2016 #9
The Compact will be found unconstitutional Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #12
In early 1860, the Confederate states sent representatives to Montgomery, Alabama Yupster Dec 2016 #14
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #13

elleng

(130,864 posts)
1. Exactly.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:46 PM
Dec 2016

We MUST repair it. Doing so will take huge efforts, largely 'political,' that is, those supporting integrity must be prepared to confront the 'no-integrity' crowd that's been in control since at least bush/rover.

One of the Dems running for chair may have mentioned it, at meeting among the several recently. Not sure which one it was.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
2. In a sane country, California gives HRC the victory
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:50 PM
Dec 2016

But the EC says our votes have only a fraction of the value of those from Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska, and the Dakotas, so it wasn't enough.

This systematic undervaluing of our votes is unconstitutional IMO.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
10. Bwahahahaha!
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 07:50 PM
Dec 2016

That was classic... not trying to get a dig in at the previous poster, but that was just too easy...

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
11. It might be undemocratic, but it's constitutional...
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 07:54 PM
Dec 2016

Until we can either pass an amendment to eliminate it or get a constitutional convention convened and eliminate via that route (then again, a whole new can of worms might be opened...).

 

Drumron

(21 posts)
6. E.c.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 05:29 PM
Dec 2016

Don't expect the electoral college to go away any time soon.... we'll over two hundred years. It ain't goin nowhere...

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
12. The Compact will be found unconstitutional
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 09:48 AM
Dec 2016

Congress must approve all binding compacts between states.

Only solution is to increase the size of the House (no constitutional amendment needed) and thus the number of EV'S and then distribute them in a fair way so that a California POTUS vote has rought the same EC power as a Wyoming vote for POTUS.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
14. In early 1860, the Confederate states sent representatives to Montgomery, Alabama
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 11:06 PM
Dec 2016

to form the Confederate government and write a Constitution.

Committees and sub-committees were formed to recommend Constitutional articles. Most committees were made up of veteran government officials, everything from former Supreme Court Justices to governors to senators.

The committee on the presidency recommended some changes. They included the line item veto. They made the President's term six years with only one term allowed. As far as how to elect the President, they went round and round and in the end, ended up keeping the electoral college which was a surprise because going in, it was assumed it would be done away with. They just couldn't come up with a different system that would have the support of the big states like Georgia and the small states like Florida and Texas.

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