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Wed Jan 4, 2017, 02:15 PM

 

From His Home in Russia, #Calexit Leader Plots California Secession

On paper, the leader of the California secession movement lives in an apartment complex near San Diego’s Golden Hill neighborhood. But in reality, the Calexit campaign is being run by a 30-year-old who lives and works in a city on the edge of Siberia.

Louis Marinelli heads the secessionist group Yes California. Following the election of Donald Trump to the presidency, the organization has gone from an unknown fringe group to one discussed seriously in mainstream media.

What has not been discussed as prominently is Marinelli’s deep ties to Russia.

A former right-wing activist from Buffalo, New York, Marinelli first moved to Russia almost a decade ago. He studied at St. Petersburg State University, the alma mater of Russian President Vladimir Putin. He returned to the United States to campaign against LGBTQ rights as part of the National Organization for Marriage.

Marinelli then returned to Russia. He would marry a Russian citizen, and the couple moved to San Diego, where Marinelli launched a political career based on a platform of California secession.

“I immigrated to California, and I consider myself to be a Californian,” Marinelli says from his apartment in Yekaterinburg, a city of about 1.4 million just east of the Ural Mountains and about 1,000 miles from Moscow.

In an interview with The California Report, Marinelli confirms he’s living and working in Russia as a teacher.

More in link plus audio: http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/12/13/from-his-home-in-russia-calexit-leader-plots-california-secession/



Cal exit opens "embassy" in Russia


http://www.notey.com/blogs/calexit

There is Louis Marinelli in burgundy suit!






SEP 2016. Moscow welcomes the (would-be) sovereign nations of California and Texas:

The speaker was calling for California’s independence from the United States.

Alexei Gavrilko nodded approvingly. A burly, bearded, camouflage-wearing separatist from eastern Ukraine, he said he had come to the posh Moscow hotel just outside the Kremlin to “communicate with colleagues” representing separatist and secessionist groups from the United States, Europe, the Middle East and the former Soviet Union.

During a conference dubbed the Dialogue of Nations, Gavrilko listened carefully to Louis Marinelli, head of the Yes California group that is determined to hold the Golden State’s “independence referendum” in 2019.

“For the first time in history, we, the people of California, who were conquered and annexed by the American military about 170 years ago, will have a chance to express our voice to either remain a state in the American union, or instead, to pursue a path toward a nationhood,” Marinelli said solemnly.

Gavrilko, who is from the unrecognized but de facto independent Donetsk region, and the entire separatist crowd cheered and applauded. They did it again, louder, when Nate Smith, a self-proclaimed “foreign minister” of the Texas Nationalist Movement, promised that one day, the independent Lone Star state “can formally exchange ambassadors with your free and independent countries.”

The arrival of Californian, Texan, Puerto Rican, Northern Irish, Catalan, Italian and Lebanese secessionists to mingle with activists from several unrecognized separatist territories in former Soviet republics is becoming a tradition as Moscow turns to belligerent, anti-Western nationalism coupled with a readiness to take up arms against its former Soviet vassals.

Moscow uses these gatherings to promote its political agenda, gain more political leverage in the West and push for the lifting of Western sanctions imposed on Moscow after its 2014 annexation of Crimea and support of the separatists in eastern Ukraine, a former lawmaker with the ruling United Russia party said.

“The more the West is disunited, the more beneficial it is to Russia,” Sergei Markov said, adding that the secession of California and Texas — a prospect that would appear to be something of a long shot — would “undoubtedly benefit” the Kremlin.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-separatists-snap-story.html





The more the West is disunited, the more beneficial it is to Russia,

“The more the West is disunited, the more beneficial it is to Russia,” Sergei Markov said, adding that the secession of California and Texas — a prospect that would appear to be something of a long shot — would “undoubtedly benefit” the Kremlin.

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-separatists-snap-story.html





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Reply From His Home in Russia, #Calexit Leader Plots California Secession (Original post)
Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 OP
pbmus Jan 2017 #1
DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #2
budkin Jan 2017 #3
msongs Jan 2017 #4
DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #5
former9thward Jan 2017 #14
DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #16
TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #7
TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #6
Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #10
DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #17
Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 #8
Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #9
Starry Messenger Jan 2017 #11
Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #13
TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #15
NobodyHere Jan 2017 #12
DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #18
Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 #19

Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 02:19 PM

1. Divided we fail...so true...

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 02:20 PM

2. the fact this person is allied with Texas

should call his California cred into question as a large part of the reason California is thinking of leavng is because they are sick and tired of having to be controlled by texans and the rest of Dixie. Not to mention he campaigned against gay rights (that will win you support in San Francisco, really, rolls eyes)

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 02:53 PM

3. I hate this idea as much as I hate Texas trying it

We're the "United" states for fuck's sake.

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Response to budkin (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 03:11 PM

4. "united" germany in the 1930's worked out so well for everyone involved too nt

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Response to budkin (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 04:14 PM

5. What does your nominal Californian have in common with your nominal Mississippian?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 09:56 PM

14. Should CA be broken up?

What does your nominal resident of Berkeley have in common with your nominal resident of Bakersfield?

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Response to budkin (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 05:25 PM

7. i'd say you need to think outside the box a little more. nt

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 05:24 PM

6. if Hitler says 2+24, i'm not going to disagree. sorry. i don't check with russia first before

 

i form my opinion; i check with facts, logic, and evidence. why don't you give this up? if you had any real case against secession, you wouldn't have to keep saying "Look, Russia wants you to do this!!!"

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Response to TheFrenchRazor (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 08:36 PM

10. lotta "experts" on California

posting from the Beltway and thereabouts, I've noticed.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 11:17 PM

17. Especially the ones comparing Bakersfield to Tupelo.

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 08:23 PM

8. KnR!

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 08:32 PM

9. Meanwhile, in Manhattan, Democratic party agenda-setters still think legalized weed is a big joke

As they try to figure out how to better appeal to "megachurch moms" by opposing pot reform and full frontal nudity on HBO.



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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 09:07 PM

11. It's a dumb idea.

Stripping the CA delegation from Congress would reduce its numbers considerably and we'd still have to share a landmass with the other 49 states, who have the military. We can fight Trump in the courts.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 09:26 PM

13. it's not happening.

but what is gonna happen hopefully is our party will start finally listening to our west coast leadership on everything from individual liberty/freedom to technology issues.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:30 PM

15. well, maybe the other blue states should join CA; throw in Canada and we'd have a decent country.

 

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Response to Madam45for2923 (Original post)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 09:12 PM

12. How many times have you posted this?

 

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Response to NobodyHere (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 11:18 PM

18. I wonder that too...

I also wonder if the seminal poster is acquainted with the ecological fallacy.

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Response to NobodyHere (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 5, 2017, 09:28 AM

19. I find it important and germane info!

 

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