Hmm ... Newt says his daughters are telling the truth about the "open marriage"

[zbdent]

However, court documents contradict at least one of his daughters' ability to tell the truth ...

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/26/politics/gingrich-divorce-file/

(found through Wikipedia's entry on Newt)

Wikipedia reference on one daughter's claim that Newt's first wife "requested" the divorce:

In 2011 their daughter, Jackie Gingrich Cushman, said that it was her mother who requested the divorce, that it happened prior to the hospital stay, and that Gingrich's visit was for the purpose of bringing the couple's children to see their mother, not to discuss the divorce. Although Gingrich's presidential campaign staff continued to insist in 2011 that his wife requested the divorce, court documents obtained by CNN from Carroll County, Georgia, indicated that Jackie had asked a judge to block the process stating that although "she has adequate and ample grounds for divorce... she does not desire one at this time (and) does not admit that this marriage is irretrievably broken.

[southernyankeebelle]

1. Honestly how would his daughters truly know? Were they there in the bedroom when he asked her?

[zbdent]

2. heh ... exactly ...

how would they know what "pillow talk" Mummy and Daddy had ...

[southernyankeebelle]

3. People can see through this. Surely they can't be that stupid.

[zbdent]

5. You forgot to add the

"smiley" ...

[southernyankeebelle]

15. LOL, I am sorry.

[zbdent]

19. and don't call me Shirley ...

[southernyankeebelle]

20. LOL, HAHAHAH

[roguevalley]

24. what treacherous women his girls are but then he's their father. I feel for their mother.

[southernyankeebelle]

25. There mother was the first wife. Can you see him telling the 2d wife that she wasn't "first lady"

material. He felt the same way about the firt wife when he asked her for a divorce. What are those girls thinking when their dad says something like that? What does that say about his daughters and their looks? He must not respect his daughters much. I feel sad for them. He really hates women. He is a pig.

[rox63]

4. I thought the divorce papers in the hospital was with wife #1?

Marianne (who gave the interview about the 'open marriage' request) is wife #2. The daughters are from his first marriage. So you may be confusing the two wives/divorces here.

[zbdent]

7. Are you saying the fact that the daughter is lying about the first divorce

means she's to be trusted in telling the truth about the second?

[rox63]

12. Not at all

I'm just saying that it sounds like someone has the two marriages mixed up. I think Newt is a lying POS, in general.

[zbdent]

13. But Newt is using his daughters to claim that the ABC interviewee is not telling the truth

and how would she know, if she wasn't there?

And she's already on record about not telling the truth about the 1st divorce.

If Newt were a Dem, the argument would be over as to the validity of the "witness's" statements. The "liberally-biased media" would be saying "Oh, another Gore inventing the internet."

[Ruby the Liberal]

6. Wrong wife.

Daughters were by Jackie (#1, cancer patient). She divorced Newt.

Open Marriage was Marianne (#2, MS patient). Newt divorced her.

[Ruby the Liberal]

10. Well, you deleted as I was responding, so I will respond to myself.

No, I do not think her input has any relevance in this. Daughters were grown and out of the house, not being raised by Marianne, and therefore not privy to the daily inner-workings of the marriage or their step-mother's relationship with their father.

Their opinion on Marianne's statement is about as useless in this as their opinion of the similarly timed Impeachment of President Clinton. Knowledge perhaps not public, but also not unbiased or first hand.

[zbdent]

11. Wikipedia statement about the first wife ... read it yourself. Second wife, no children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich#Marriages_and_children

From the reference for Newt.

Here's the lead-in to the above:

In the spring of 1980, Gingrich left Battley after beginning an affair with Marianne Ginther. In 1984, Battley told The Washington Post that the divorce was a "complete surprise" to her. According to Battley, in September 1980, Gingrich and their children visited her while she was in the hospital, recovering from surgery, and Gingrich wanted to discuss the terms of their divorce. Gingrich has disputed that account. In 2011 their daughter, Jackie Gingrich Cushman, said that it was her mother who requested the divorce, that it happened prior to the hospital stay, and that Gingrich's visit was for the purpose of bringing the couple's children to see their mother, not to discuss the divorce. Although Gingrich's presidential campaign staff ...

[Ruby the Liberal]

14. I'm not sure why you are directing that at me

Seeing as how the point I am making is that I find his daughter's (from his first marriage) opinion about the inner workings of his second marriage to be weightless?

[zbdent]

16. You're posting erroneous information ...

court documents say that wife #1 asked to block the proceedings.

You said "She divorced Newt." - facts are not supporting that.

Yes, the daughter's opinion is weightless ... but the "liberally-biased media" will still push the daughter's statements, despite the evidence.

[Ruby the Liberal]

22. Point taken, and I really don't care who divorced who 30 years ago

The point is that his daughter's statements about Marianne are inconsequential.

Had I left out the 2 divorce comments and just left the pole position and disease, point still stands on its merit.

[d_r]

9. this is about the first wife

I think I got this straight. She was his high school math teacher and he married her. He decided she wasn't pretty enough for him to run for president. He started having an affair, and sent her divorce papers when she was in the hospital for cancer. He married the girl he had an affair with. Now wife #2. He started having an affair on her with the chicken lady. He asked her for an open marriage because he wanted to keep the chicken lady. But she said no, and he divorced her when she got sick is MS or something. And then married #3. I think that is it.

But #1 said she didn't want a divorce. She didn't divorce him.

[southernyankeebelle]

17. The 2 daughters are from the first marriage. But like I said from the beginning how the heck

would they know what was going on in marriage #2 if they weren't living with them and why would he or she tell the girls about bedroom talk? It is beyond me I would tell my children or step children that their father wanted an open marriage. I believe wife #2 especially since he has a habit of leaving wives who have serio us illness.

[zbdent]

18. another thing about wife #2's appearance in the "liberally-biased media" ...

After seeing how the women speaking out about Herman Cain were treated, and how the Republicans decried the "treatments" of the accusers of Bill Clinton (Repugs said they were "courageous&quot ...

I find it hard to believe that she would just come out and willingly "lie" to the media like Repugs will claim, just so that she can be crucified ...

[southernyankeebelle]

21. Well remember Marianne isn't "first lady" material. So she doesn't get the pass.

[victoryparty]

23. Newt is done for

Newt is behaving like... a husband who cheated repeatedly on his wife. Herman Cain must be proud of the former Speaker.