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kairos12

(12,852 posts)
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:30 PM Jan 2013

Republican Long Term Strategy

The way it went and goes:

Reagan gets elected and simultaneously demonizes and de-funds government. He uses his 8 years to plaster the federal bench with like-minded corporate welfare judges. The judges, using the precedent of the Air Traffic Control Strike begin to remove the labor unions from our political system. Labor Unions find it more difficult to resource their efforts and and organized labor activity drops greatly over the next 20 years. These judges play a great role in keeping alive the impeachment efforts against Bill Clinton and consequently, with the aid of the Republican Supreme Court we get the Shrub for 8 years. The Shrub continues to destroy good governance, "heck of a job Brownie," so that in 2008, after the economic meltdown, when a Democrat is elected Tea Party Thugs are able to build a forest fire against government, and not the Wall Street Banksters. The Republicans, seeing their ground gain electoral efforts being destroyed by Obama's election team get Citizens United passed so that corporate money can overtake shoe leather election efforts. The Tea Baggers and their corporate paymasters can't steal the Presidency, but manage to help state republicans gerrymander their districts so that the Tea Thugs hold onto the House of Representatives, despite losing the popular vote. It seems with this hold onto the House they can force the government into default and then blame the government. Their answer will be to privatize all activities the government has "failed" to do after the self-inflicted wound of the Debt Ceiling default.

Their strategy is diabolical, but can be defeated. An all out effort, Presidential election year effort, to rid the country of the tea party thugs who control the House. In addition, President Obama must make a priority getting his judges through the Senate. These two things will go a long way to derail Republican long-term plans. Just my thoughts.

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Republican Long Term Strategy (Original Post) kairos12 Jan 2013 OP
It began with Nixon... n/t Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #1
Good Point kairos12 Jan 2013 #2
Exactly. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #7
Yes, many things did, but perhaps the OP poster didn't have time to take it that far back. We People Jan 2013 #3
True it did start well before Reagan davidpdx Jan 2013 #14
I've read 'The Nine'...that was enough.... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #15
I guarantee The Oath is worth it davidpdx Jan 2013 #16
I will come looking for you Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #17
It really is worth it davidpdx Jan 2013 #18
Yes, it is. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #19
I'd bet the books are cheaper as well davidpdx Jan 2013 #25
Hey there... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #28
No problem davidpdx Jan 2013 #29
I've read The Nine. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #30
Thanks very much for your insights and suggestions, kairos12 We People Jan 2013 #4
kick samsingh Jan 2013 #5
Is there any way to get the States to raise the minimum wage? 2.00 would make a huge difference. Sunlei Jan 2013 #6
Which State? Not all States stick with the Fed Minimum. Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #10
Republicans have been plotting to overthrow democracy for decades meow2u3 Jan 2013 #8
Republicans and libertarians appear to be fine with government overreach Jamaal510 Jan 2013 #26
That is a very compelling post, kairos12. Welcome to DU! 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #9
Thanks For The Welcome kairos12 Jan 2013 #11
It's been a lot of years, but yeah, once upon a time that was my MOS. 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #12
Hooah Indeed! kairos12 Jan 2013 #13
Justices Ginsburg and Breyer need to retire NOW. BlueDemKev Jan 2013 #20
Centrist Judges kairos12 Jan 2013 #21
I'm not so sure... BlueDemKev Jan 2013 #22
Your Points Are Well Made kairos12 Jan 2013 #23
We don't need to go THAT far... BlueDemKev Jan 2013 #24
It is easier to just buy a few Dems and the GOP in effect has control of the party stultusporcos Jan 2013 #27

kairos12

(12,852 posts)
2. Good Point
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:22 PM
Jan 2013

One might say it even began with General Electric supporting a failing actor to become Governor of California back in the 60s. In some cases Nixon was too pro-government, creation of the EPA, for example, for the anti-government corporate crowd. But I agree, the win at any cost and destroy the other side with impunity, was certainly a tactic Nixon brought to the table and was carried on by Republicans.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
7. Exactly.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:49 AM
Jan 2013

I'm reading "America's Stolen Narrative" by Robert Parry which begins with Nixon doing everything possible to block the Paris Peace process Johnson was desperate to achieve. My brother died in Vietnam in 1969...had he not interferred, it is entirely possible there would have been a cease fire and I would still have 2 brothers. Reagan was a self-serving idiot but Nixon was downright evil...IMHO

We People

(619 posts)
3. Yes, many things did, but perhaps the OP poster didn't have time to take it that far back.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:58 PM
Jan 2013

It was still a very good summary of what's gone on and what needs to happen.

Edit to add: I hadn't refreshed my browser in time to realize that the OP agreed. Never mind!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. True it did start well before Reagan
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:41 AM
Jan 2013

When some of these people like Roberts were in college and recruited by the Federalist Society. I recommend both of Jeffery Toobin's books, The Nine and The Oath. Both talk about how the Supreme Court justices (past as in the four that recently left the bench, and the current ones) grew up, went to college and began their careers up until they were appointed.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
15. I've read 'The Nine'...that was enough....
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:47 AM
Jan 2013

I'm almost finished with "America's Stolen Narrative" by Robert Parry. Another hair raiser and he indicts the media as well.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
16. I guarantee The Oath is worth it
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:14 AM
Jan 2013

It goes a lot into the history of Obama and Roberts which is interesting. Also talks about the two new justices (Kagen and Sotomayor)

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
17. I will come looking for you
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:26 AM
Jan 2013

if I disagree.

Just downloaded The Oath to my Kindle Paper White...a new toy I absolutely love!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
18. It really is worth it
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:56 AM
Jan 2013

I haven't adapted well to reading text on a screen. I do that a lot for my doctoral work and it strains my eyes too much. I am still the kind of person that likes to touch what I read. Printing things out is such a waste though. It leaves me torn sometimes as which to do.

I will say that every time I read Toobin's books I come away hating Scalia even more because he so accurately covers what an ass he is.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
19. Yes, it is.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:34 AM
Jan 2013

I downloaded it yesterday and began reading it late last night. So, now I know that we didn't always think the second amendment pertained to individuals owning whatever guns they wanted and that Obama doesn't believe in using the court system to change society. I agree with him...we need to use the ballot. I'm up to Chapter 4...Appendix E. My son is a new Tax Attorney...completed his LL.M. in 2011 and went to work for a small firm in Miami...wonder how familiar he is with the work of Ruth and Marty.

Scalia gets all of the little things right and the big things wrong. His opinions make for hilarious reading, however. I read "Scalia Dissents" a few years ago and laughed all the way through it. If Scalia wasn't such an ass O'Connor would have voted his way more often...it was his obnoxious personality that moved her to the liberal side on important votes. I find Roberts and Alito much more dangerous. Roberts used his vote on the ACA to begin building a fence around the commerce clause. I think Toobin has rightly pointed out that Dems tend to ignore the courts unless the rethugs become too aggressive....It has allowed the GOP to build up a powerful force within the entire court system. Blocking Obama's appointments on all levels has become a real problem, both for the mechanics of the system and the ideology. He will have to fill those seats this term or we are screwed if the Rep. take the WH in 2016. (I am a believer in planning for the worst while hoping & working for the best.)

You would love the Kindle Paper White... You can adjust the lighting and the font sizes. An avid reader told me he gets through books faster on his Kindle. I think he was being absolutely truthful. I seem to breeze through a book on my Paper White. Like you, I'm not a big fan of reading from a computer screen. I find I can read longer and faster on the Paper White. My Kindle arrived Tuesday and I'm on my second book....

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
25. I'd bet the books are cheaper as well
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:43 AM
Jan 2013

Which would be a nice benefit.

Toobin makes so many good points in both his books and he continues to spur my interest in the Supreme Court. Personally I think Scalia's decision should be used as toilet paper as that is all they are worth. I'm not kidding the more I read about him the more he pisses me off. There is one part in the book that talks about Scalia making jokes during oral arguments and Roberts finally has to tell him to shut his yap.

Obama needs to start building for the court of the future by getting nominees appointed and purging the conservatives. That will take decades and a few more D presidents though.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
28. Hey there...
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:44 PM
Jan 2013

Finished The Oath last night...Thank you so much for the rec!

Funny, I think the egomaniacal Kennedy comes off much worse in this book. Scalia is a buffoon, always has been...Kennedy enjoys wielding his power way too much. Thomas has done the most damage to the nation with his rabid originalism...according to Toobin, it was Thomas who introduced the language which framed the second amendment as an individual's right to bear arms into the court record.

Certain things have been made very clear to me lately... It has been the failure of Democrats to fight back that is responsible for the mess we're in. I almost fell out of my chair when I read that Biden made the decision to not call the witnesses who would have backed up Anita Hill's testimony. If he enters the primary for the Dem nomination, he will not get my vote.

I am thoroughly disgusted with the lack of judicial appointments...he is not carrying out his constitutional responsibilities.

Yes, the e-books are bit cheaper, but not as cheap as they used to be. I just can't get over the ease and speed with which I can now get through a book. It is going to take a lot of self discipline in order to plow through the stacks of hard copy books I already own...

Again, thanks for a great rec.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. Which State? Not all States stick with the Fed Minimum.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:55 PM
Jan 2013

Oregon's is 8.95, Washington State is 9.19 I think. Increases according to the urban CPI in both States....the State by State list:
http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/labor/state-minimum-wage-chart.aspx

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
8. Republicans have been plotting to overthrow democracy for decades
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:48 PM
Jan 2013

and install a dictator or gang of dictators. And they have the nerve to call us tyrants?

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
26. Republicans and libertarians appear to be fine with government overreach
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:05 AM
Jan 2013

as long as it's on the state level. They feel they can do whatever they want state-by-state whether it's denying people access to Obamacare, make voting more inconvenient for low-income people, outlawing abortions, raising sales taxes (like with Jindal), or even a certain failed presidential candidate who inspired the creation of Obamacare.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
20. Justices Ginsburg and Breyer need to retire NOW.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:30 PM
Jan 2013

So that President Obama can nominate young liberal justices to replace them. There's no telling who will be president after 2016 and the last thing we need is to have Ginsburg and Breyer replaced with another Alito and another Scalia.

kairos12

(12,852 posts)
21. Centrist Judges
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:55 PM
Jan 2013

Your post is thinking ahead, however the Senate will never confirm any judge who leans as far to the left as Alito and Scalia are to the right. Obama is faced with appointing mild-mannered centrists who can't or won't fight the rightist jurists from a true left leaning perspective. It is a shame, but any truly leftist judge will be filibustered.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
22. I'm not so sure...
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jan 2013

...Sotomayor and Kagan are arguably "leftist" judges and both were confirmed easily with significant Republican support. The Democrats didn't filibuster either Roberts or Alito, either. Although a few judges appointed to the federal bench have been filibustered, every Supreme Court justice nominee in my lifetime has received a straight up-or-down vote (except for two who withdrew before their hearings even began).

kairos12

(12,852 posts)
23. Your Points Are Well Made
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jan 2013

I think his two picks are good ones. I am thinking however of a true ideological warrior like Goodwin Liu from Berkeley who was blocked by the Republicans. I believe he, or someone like him, is the ideological answer for swinging the direction of the court against Roberts and Alito.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
24. We don't need to go THAT far...
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:22 PM
Jan 2013

...we don't need a left-wing ideologue to balance out Alito and Scalia. All we need is to get at least five liberal judges on the court from the Souter/Breyer mold and we'll have a majority. Unfortunately, I don't see any of the five conservative justices stepping down over the next four years, do you? Kennedy and Scalia are both in their mid-70s, Thomas turns 65 this year, and Roberts and Alito are under 60. At the very least, we need to HOLD the four liberal seats we currently have, which is why Ginsburg and Breyer need to step down--preferably this year or next while we have a solid Democratic majority in the Senate which will confirm Obama's appointments.

 

stultusporcos

(327 posts)
27. It is easier to just buy a few Dems and the GOP in effect has control of the party
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:26 AM
Jan 2013

which is what we are seeing today which is practical, moderate and centrist.

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