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world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:01 PM Jan 2013

Is this stupidity, insanity, or some kind of bizarre plan?

John Boehner now says that one of the Republicans main goals this year is ending abortion. This coming at a time when the majority of the population supports a woman's right to choose. The President supports that right and the Senate does as well.

Does he have the Supreme Court in his pocket already? Is it just a ploy to put off everything else again?
WTF?

Your thoughts?

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Is this stupidity, insanity, or some kind of bizarre plan? (Original Post) world wide wally Jan 2013 OP
Their 'priorities' are all up their Faux pas Jan 2013 #1
He's giving lip service to a conservative hot button issue. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #2
None of those. It's pandering. cbayer Jan 2013 #3
Like a love starved puppy he's fishing for approval lunatica Jan 2013 #4
New jobs bill? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #5
It's all three AgingAmerican Jan 2013 #6
+1 million! Or so. eom BlueMTexpat Jan 2013 #21
They're believing the wrong polls again! summerschild Jan 2013 #7
Look at this hand over here. mzteris Jan 2013 #8
Yeppers n/t NightOwwl Jan 2013 #14
Is this stupidity, insanity, or some kind of bizarre plan? Flashmann Jan 2013 #9
They're desperate to keep the ultra-conservatives hooked in for 2014 alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #10
They did that last Congress, as well as in the state legislatures. CBHagman Jan 2013 #11
They're not there to govern, they don't know how... santamargarita Jan 2013 #12
The best way to "end" abortion..... Wounded Bear Jan 2013 #13
If their concern really was for unborn children... NightOwwl Jan 2013 #16
Thank God for Romania. Brigid Jan 2013 #28
They're losing control of the discourse recently... MyshkinCommaPrince Jan 2013 #15
Ever noticed that some TV shows resort to "stunt casting" right before they're canceled? winter is coming Jan 2013 #17
GOP #2 ISSUE - FLAT EARTH #3 ISSUE - EARTH IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE ROBROX Jan 2013 #18
The GOP truly lives in a bubble Politicub Jan 2013 #19
I think it has more to do with money than reason.... SEMOVoter Jan 2013 #20
OBSTRUCTION. Avalux Jan 2013 #22
This is business as usual in American politics. bemildred Jan 2013 #23
I guess the House is going to waste more time with anti-choice bills davidpdx Jan 2013 #24
Money. It's about money, cleaning out the pockets of abortion foes. bemildred Jan 2013 #25
He knows his goose ala orange, is pretty well cooked. 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #26
Its fund raising. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #27
They had to replace the "one term president" with something. This is as good as anything else. Kablooie Jan 2013 #29

Faux pas

(14,657 posts)
1. Their 'priorities' are all up their
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jan 2013

(or should i say women's) asses. Not just government, but MEN need to leave women's stuff to we the women.
F 'EM!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. Like a love starved puppy he's fishing for approval
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jan 2013

from the Teabag cursing, nasty master who just keeps kicking him.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,403 posts)
5. New jobs bill?
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jan 2013


Seriously, it's probably nothing but pandering but if they really plan to push this *goal* for the next two years, well, please proceed...........

summerschild

(725 posts)
7. They're believing the wrong polls again!
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jan 2013

As in the election, they're choosing the ones that agree with their view regardless of accuracy.

Just yesterday, some stupid woman interviewed by Russert the Dumb on MSNBC quoted a poll that said 82% opposed abortion. Of course he didn't refute it.

Love that bubble! Let's hear it for THE STUPID!

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
8. Look at this hand over here.
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:43 PM
Jan 2013

Though, I think they would love to strip the rights of women to abortion. If they can pull this off as well, then they'll be hysterical with joy.

But, I think it's to distract from whatever other nefarious, devious, underhanded evil piece of bullsh*t they're trying to pull.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
10. They're desperate to keep the ultra-conservatives hooked in for 2014
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jan 2013

It doesn't matter that this shit can't work as a matter of policy. Right now, they have the complete collapse of the Tea Party to contend with, as well as a base that is disheartened, suspicious of contributing, and generally exhausted. they also have Obama's people now coming after them in even their own gerrymandered districts, never mind the moderate Northern and Western districts. They absolutely have to firm up their base, or even their disgusting gerrymandering won't save them in 2014.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
11. They did that last Congress, as well as in the state legislatures.
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:36 PM
Jan 2013

This is what the GOP does nowadays. Never mind that the public at large isn't clamoring for it.

santamargarita

(3,170 posts)
12. They're not there to govern, they don't know how...
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:40 PM
Jan 2013

They exist to tear things down.
They are the biggest threat to the survival of our nation.

Wounded Bear

(58,639 posts)
13. The best way to "end" abortion.....
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:41 PM
Jan 2013

is through contraception, education and scientific/medical support.

You'll never "end" it, of course, but if we do it right, we can achieve that illusive goal of making it safe and legal, yet rare. The only reason I would want to drop the abortion rate is that it is an invasive medical procedure that I would love all women to be able to avoid. But banning it entirely would be a big mistake. RWers hate to admit it, but there are medically sound reasons for some abortions. And there are more morally sound reasons to allow them, IMHO.

Christ, you'd think they would read their own Bible. The Genesis fable about the garden tells it all. There's a reason they call it the 'forbidden fruit.' Abolishing something is the best way to increase it's attraction to the people. All of their efforts to make sex less attractive to young folks flies in the face of millions of years of biology/anthropology.

I've long held the belief that their abortion stance has nothing to do with unborn children. That's a red herring. Their real goal is controlling women's sex lives, plain and simple. You can't maintain a male dominated society if women can have sex at will, and most importantly, have a choice in who's man-seed they allow to germinate within their bodies.

 

NightOwwl

(5,453 posts)
16. If their concern really was for unborn children...
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jan 2013

that concern would continue once the child exited the womb. Of course we all know how that worked out.

According to UNICEF, 23.1% of American children under the age of seventeen live in poverty. The United States ranks second out of thirty-five economically advanced countries. Romania ranks first, with 25.5% of children living in poverty.

MyshkinCommaPrince

(611 posts)
15. They're losing control of the discourse recently...
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jan 2013

They've been losing control of the discourse, or losing the public image battle. They need to refocus their side and they need to try to drag our side into a struggle where they stand a better chance of controlling public perception. The abortion issue has done great things for their side and reactions of both their side and ours are probably easily predicted in this area, so naturally they turn in that direction, but I don't think it will be the only thing they'll try to use this way in coming months. They'll be looking for any issue they can use to make themselves look better and keep their side fired up.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
17. Ever noticed that some TV shows resort to "stunt casting" right before they're canceled?
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jan 2013

Think back to shows you've watched: the ratings are sagging, the writers are flagging, so hey! So-and-so whooptifloo Big Name Star will be making a cameo next week. The uber-evil-villain, long believed dead, magically returns. Long-lost relatives magically appear. In short, *anything* that will get a few more eyeballs.

 

ROBROX

(392 posts)
18. GOP #2 ISSUE - FLAT EARTH #3 ISSUE - EARTH IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jan 2013

The GOP seems to pick concerns that have no meaning so that the ass clowns can show how crazy they are to the public.

This big problem is that there is a large population that does not know about basic science or can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
19. The GOP truly lives in a bubble
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 05:39 PM
Jan 2013

They have their own conservative media complex which is used to send a far right message to an insular group.

It's like the GOP is living in an alternate reality. But there are more people in the Obama coalition than who would vote for the GOP. So this weird GOP ignorance to reality is going to continue.

SEMOVoter

(202 posts)
20. I think it has more to do with money than reason....
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jan 2013

but let them bring it on. Any more crazy to shrink the GOP "brand" is all good with me.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
22. OBSTRUCTION.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jan 2013

Yes, a ploy to put everything else off again. Did you really think Republicans would start playing ball? They'll destroy themselves before they'll ever work with Obama.

And - they are desperate to keep their base emotionally invested....abortion talk works.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
23. This is business as usual in American politics.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jan 2013

Lies, distractions, under the table deals, corruption, and obstruction of the public will.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
24. I guess the House is going to waste more time with anti-choice bills
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:03 AM
Jan 2013

and repealing Obamacare (I know that's not what he said, but we all know they will continue to try). It is going to be a heartburn repeat of the last two years.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
25. Money. It's about money, cleaning out the pockets of abortion foes.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:56 AM
Jan 2013

This is actually the perfect time for that, they are losing.
But it's a racket.

To walk in money through the night crowd, protected by money, lulled by money, dulled by money, the crowd itself a money, the breath money, no least single object anywhere that is not money, money, money everywhere and still not enough, and then no money, or a little money or less money or more money, but money, always money, and if you have money or you don’t have money it is the money that counts and money makes money, but what makes money make money? -- Henry Miller in "Tropic of Capricorn"
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
26. He knows his goose ala orange, is pretty well cooked.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:03 AM
Jan 2013

He's just trying to get his rednecks back in his pocket. Next he might bring up gays n god. See what his peeps react to. Then run with that.

They don't really want RoeVWade reversed. It has brought them so much political usage that they will never let it go.

Oh yea, he might remind everyone that Obama is black too. Whatever works, he will try.

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