2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDear everyone: Chris Christie is conservative
UPDATED: How many times do we have to explain this?
BY ALEX PAREENE
Chris Christie in swimming in Democratic money as he runs for reelection. His Democratic opponent, Barbara Buono, is ignored by the national press and the sort of people that would usually be writing checks for the Democratic challenger to a Republican governor in a large, liberal state.
Hugging Barack Obama was maybe the best political decision New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has ever made, and hes made some very canny ones. Im not saying his embrace of the president following Hurricane Sandy was entirely cynical, but it was very boisterous, and it continued through last week, when Obama visited the Jersey Shore and once again made nice with Christie before the national TV news cameras.
Heres whats odd about this Republican governor who currently seems much more popular with Democrats than national Republicans: Hes quite conservative. Especially for the Northeast. That was, in fact, his original appeal, back when conservatives were thrilled about him: Hes the most conservative possible successful statewide officeholder for a blue state like New Jersey.
In his first term, Christie torpedoed a much-needed mass transit tunnel project, same-sex marriage and early voting. He vetoed a minimum wage hike. He vetoed legislation designed to eliminate the gender wage gap. He withdrew from a regional carbon cap-and-trade agreement. He killed a Jersey version of the DREAM Act and cut funding for womens health services, including eliminating funding for Planned Parenthood. Remember how pissed everyone got when Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives tried to do the same thing? Many liberals seem to give Christie a pass for his antiabortion views that theyd never give a red state Republican. (This is maybe because he used to be pro-choice, meaning he made the exact switch on the issue everyone trashed Romney for making.)
full article
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/04/dear_everyone_chris_christie_is_conservative/
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Father Buster...
BillyRibs
(787 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)The only way, policy-wise, I can distinguish Diane Feinstein from Ahnold Scwartzennegger, is that Ahnold was liberal on legalizing marijuana. Period.
For instance - here is a list on some major policies, where I say "check" I mean both Di and Ahnold agreed:
pro-abortion rights: check.
pro-environment: check.
afraid of "socialistic programs" like Single Payer Health Care for everyone: check.
indepat
(20,899 posts)thankfully, most conservative Democrats are not, at least now, among the prevalent bat-shit crazy type most 'pukes are.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)The Corporate Party. Which is why he gets along so well with Obama.
blm
(113,044 posts)and did so for a group headed by Bernie Madoff. Amazing that NJ Dems haven't been smearing Christie as Madoff's lobbyist of choice.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/03/1022317/-Christie-has-a-Bernie-Madoff-Problem#
forestpath
(3,102 posts)is a fucking idiot, a traitor, or both.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Hallow be thy name....
Father Buster
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)He is just like any other Republican, except he doesn't say batshit crazy stuff like Jesus rode a dinosaur. We have really set the bar low for Republicans.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Let's face it, anyone with an (R) next to their name is against progress, the working class, women, children, the poor, and anyone who isn't a rich white man.
byronius
(7,394 posts)Give the guy a break!
Yeah, not cool at all. Low bar, so low it's f***ing buried.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)he hasn't
Cha
(297,154 posts)with him.. Vetoing their Legislation?
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I seriously doubt anyone here ever plans on voting for him for anything.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)The MSM is going to make him their media darling for the next 2 years and before we know it, he'll be atop the GOP ticket and then, moving in to 1600.
We need to be alert. VERY alert.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)He's been in bed with Morning Joe since he took office in 2010.
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BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I'm well aware of how popular he is in NJ. I was referring more to the members of this website.
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(3,731 posts)and I apologize.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)premium
(3,731 posts)Have a good day, supposed to get to 105 degrees here today. Ugggg.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)Or stopped them from giving him preference over real Democrats. Charlie Crist only changed the letter behind his name to collect Democratic money, and it's working for him.
Christie, if he gets enough push back from Tea Party people, will go the same route as Crist - change parties in name only.
Democrats should support REAL Democrats and not give their money to Republicans, even if those Republicans are slightly less conservative than Tea Party members. Let the Tea Party drag the Republicans further right until they all go over the cliff.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Too conservative for NJ, gets away with it through his personality and being the only Repub to act halfway decent to a President of a different party. Which should not be unusual. People must be so shocked from what was once normal bipartisanship. He is sly and shrewd for sure. His ideas are not good for NJ.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts).
valerief
(53,235 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He isn't a conservative. He is a radical reactionary statist.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,407 posts)He occasionally says and does some things that are respectable (for a Republican) but at the end of the day he is union-busting bully out to crush 'libs and one of Rush Limbaugh's favorite governors (or at least was at one point) for going after teachers unions. He's not with us and I fail to see how/why Democratic donors are lining up to back him.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)and every other republican.
KinMd
(966 posts)Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)in the 1980s who supported Bob Packwood because he was pro-choice (as if his Dem opponent wasnt=/t).
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)of issues, she or he is considered a moderate and worthy of praise and support from the mainstream. Senators Susan Collins and Kelly Ayotte are not moderates. They are self-hating women who support their oppressors. Governor Christie is a rude, overbearing cretin who deserves scorn.
By comparison, Packwood was probably reasonable, at least by the standards of the time. While I really disliked him, I didn't loathe him. These people I truly loathe.
Ter
(4,281 posts)Here's a direct quote from him: "Here's my position on it. My name's the name on the ballot. I am pro-life, I believe in exceptions for rape, incest and the life of the mother. That's my position, take it or leave it."
http://www.ontheissues.org/governor/chris_christie_abortion.htm
Kablooie
(18,628 posts)Dancing for Democrats will pull in Dem votes and he already has the Pug votes.
It could be a winning combination.
Once he's won he will be free to drop the facade and become as conservative as he wants.
tomp
(9,512 posts)....the man is a phony and a bully. most likely a sociopath. americans are very often extremely poor judges of character, especially in politics. why anyone would like or trust this man is beyond me. why any democrat would like him says as much about democrats as it does about christie.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)Christie is no Democrat but the mainstream corporates will sell him to us like a shiny new car, or maybe like they sold us Reagan. What could possibly go wrong?
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)I'm glad you made this point strongly. Just because people see a Republican not consumed with visceral hatred for Obama, and goes on The Daily Show and may have some slight sense of humor he's considered wonderful. Do people forget that he's governor of a very blue state and that if he expects to continue to be governor he damn well needed to get the President's attention after Sandy. Well obviously I'm speaking to the choir but thanks for your post.