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Wed Jun 5, 2013, 05:40 AM

Why did all of these Tea Party Groups want a government hand out? Ie government money!

Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) on Tuesday questioned why tea party groups were seeking to be subsidized by the government.

At a House hearing on IRS misconduct, McDermott acknowledged the federal tax agency had inappropriately used political criteria to locate nonprofit applications that needed extra review.

“But as I listen to this discussion, I’d like to remind everyone what we are talking about here,” he continued. “None of your organizations were kept from organizing or silenced. We are talking about whether or not the American taxpayers would subsidize your work. We are talking about a tax break.”


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/04/rep-mcdermott-wonders-why-tea-party-groups-applied-for-taxpayer-funded-subsidies/

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Reply Why did all of these Tea Party Groups want a government hand out? Ie government money! (Original post)
UCmeNdc Jun 2013 OP
66 dmhlt Jun 2013 #1
Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #2
former9thward Jun 2013 #10
Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #15
former9thward Jun 2013 #17
Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #20
Sunlei Jun 2013 #3
former9thward Jun 2013 #11
Sunlei Jun 2013 #12
LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #4
grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #6
The Wizard Jun 2013 #5
Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #7
allan01 Jun 2013 #8
blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #9
Sunlei Jun 2013 #13
Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #21
meow2u3 Jun 2013 #14
Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #16
Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2013 #18
Zoeisright Jun 2013 #19
Myrina Jun 2013 #22

Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 06:11 AM

1. I LOVE this framing - Teabaggers as "Welfare Queens"

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 06:46 AM

2. Where in the Constitution

does it say that people have a "right" to tax-exempt status anyway? in their made-up one perhaps?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 11:34 AM

10. It is a law.

The Constitution authorizes Congress to make laws on tax policy.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:05 PM

15. They have the ability/right to apply for tax exempt status

nobody is entitled to tax exempt status (and the IRS has the prerogative to question the tax exempt status of questionable groups and make them prove that they are eligible under the law- to the extent that the law is clear on the matter, which, in this case, it is not) AFAIK

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 04:19 PM

17. As someone who directs a 501c3 I agree.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 09:34 PM

20. They want to be tax-exempt and money launder at the same time!

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:16 AM

3. those tax free charities all try to get the limited Gov grants.

It's really a shame political charity groups take this limited grant money away from real charities who have a hard time even getting funds and donations.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 11:35 AM

11. That is not what it is about.

Where have these groups got government grants? Do you have a link? They get money from donors who wish to further their goals.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 11:55 AM

12. our gov. federal and state give thousands of grants to non-profits and charities.

you can do a search?.. "Gov. grants" and see how you can apply for your non-profit or charity group.

"Gov grants"

http://www.google.com/#gs_rn=15&gs_ri=psy-ab&suggest=p&cp=6&gs_id=q&xhr=t&q=Gov+grants&es_nrs=true&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Gov+gr&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47380653,d.aWM&fp=47927edf2ec5f5c8&biw=1088&bih=540

far as these groups, if they are a state or federal 'non-profit' or tax-free, or public service charity- they have to post their paperwork somewhere, call them and ask for their financial information.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:46 AM

4. Why is it wrong to target violators based on certain perameters?

It shouldn't be any different when the IRS has triggers set up in their audits to alert them of possible issues.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 08:25 AM

6. When it is the goal of your organization to cheat on taxes.

 

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 08:00 AM

5. Lying thieving assholes

We're normal; they're not.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 08:31 AM

7. Look, these guys piss me off royally, and the big offenders are getting away with no scrutiny. But,

 

... there's no handout. It's a tax break. Money they already have that they don't have to pay. The distinction is clear.

McDermott nailed it, but his comments have been reframed by the OP.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 08:41 AM

8. re: Why did all of these Tea Party Groups want a government hand out? Ie government money!

esposing the tea party motives. lets all call those social wealfare groups like a.l.e.c and see what kind of response wed get if asking for aid . i have an idear, get a job. i am this sstory.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 10:33 AM

9. HYPOCRISY

 

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 12:07 PM

13. repub. tax free- don't pay local sales tax either on supplies, that hurts your local communities.

people don't mind groups like the Red Cross, food banks, homeless shelters, and Churches get a local tax pass, but come on America..these are political groups, political 'clubs' and they should pay their taxes.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 09:36 PM

21. Tea Party organizations are fronts for big business

linked to tax fraud and money laundering. No one is listening.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 12:47 PM

14. Teabaggers think they're entitled to representation without taxation

All while they whine, carp, cry, etc. about being taxed too much.

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 03:53 PM

16. Exactly TEA=Taxed Enough Already!

Where do they think that the money for roads that they drive on comes from? Where do they think that money for the police and fire departments come from? It would be nice if they could do a thought experiment sometime about what a world without taxes would actually look like. I'm not sure that, if they thought about it hard enough, they would like it much IMHO but then again, they don't *think* much either.........

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 04:52 PM

18. You see, here's how it goes:

Republicans LIKE big government- provided that it serves and benefits THEM, their donors, their "base", their future electoral prospects.

They HATE big government when it serves and benefits anybody OTHER than them, their donors, their "base", their future electoral prospects, etc.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:17 PM

19. Because they are fucking hypocrites.

Everything they say or do is a complete lie.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 09:16 AM

22. Gubmint money is fine for them because they DESERVE it. It's an INCENTIVE.

For the rest of us, though, we're just lazy slackers who don't deserve a used piece of chewing gum because it will make us 'dependent' on the system. Didn't you read the memo?

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