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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:59 PM

Why is the mainstream media pushing the meme that Christie could beat Hillary in 2016?

Christie is disgusting in my opinion and too caustic and nasty to be President. But for the last two days I have been seeing articles saying Christie could be President and he could win in a landslide. It is some corporate fantasy I think to push Christie on us. So the republicans in Iowa think he could win well they also picked Bachman in the straw poll and she ended up dropping out. Yahoo news has been pushing for days now. I just don't see the corpulent abrasive Christie in the white house in 2016. He still has a (R) by his name and his attacks on teachers, women's rights, the poor and minorities will not win him many friends except in the extreme right who think he is a RINO. That party is really fractured, filled with ignorant haters who have lost their minds.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chart-shows-why-republicans-crazy-160900409.html

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Reply Why is the mainstream media pushing the meme that Christie could beat Hillary in 2016? (Original post)
kimbutgar Jul 2013 OP
railsback Jul 2013 #1
JimDandy Jul 2013 #3
railsback Jul 2013 #8
bamacrat Jul 2013 #2
hollysmom Jul 2013 #9
bamacrat Jul 2013 #13
tabbycat31 Jul 2013 #14
hollysmom Jul 2013 #15
tabbycat31 Jul 2013 #16
djean111 Jul 2013 #4
LonePirate Jul 2013 #5
DrDan Jul 2013 #6
Proud Public Servant Jul 2013 #7
Chan790 Jul 2013 #10
PoliticAverse Jul 2013 #11
BlueStater Jul 2013 #12

Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:11 PM

1. Simple: SnowdenWald

 

National defense is always a big subject in elections. Most want to feel secure. The only thing the SnowdenWald ignorance is doing is setting up the narrative that Dems are weak on defense, who will then try to skirt around the subject, looking for a happy medium, making them look even more pathetic. That will turn off Liberals, the voter turnout will suffer, and that ALWAYS benefits the GOP.

The meme that Christie can beat Hillary is more than just plausible. Its a reality.

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Response to railsback (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:13 PM

3. Puhleaaase.

Not EVERYTHING is about Snowden.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:22 PM

8. Nothing is about Snowden

 

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:12 PM

2. People like him.

I think its because he's fat and therefore a lot of people in this country can relate to him that way. He is crazy and mean but he's better than Rick Perry or any Paul. I don't think he would stand much of a chance against Hillary but W was elected so...

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Response to bamacrat (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:39 PM

9. people like him because the media does not criticize him or

expose all the things he is pushing. Voter ID, school privatization, busting unions, corporate taxes lower, benefits of state lower, not participating in Obama care, Cutting mass transportation or pretty much an ALEC idea.

I hope the media does not make him spo popular he gets more republicans in the state legislature, they are the only ones keeping him from all these things now.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:25 AM

13. Very true, his hugging of Obama could hurt him also.

He acknowledged that Obama handled the Sandy thing the right way, traveled with him and didn't burst into flames when they shook hands or hugged. He will be this cycles shiny up and comer, but the crazies will paint him as palling around with extremists like Obama.. so he will will get pushed aside for another Bush or the rights transparent and disingenuous version of a "minority" candidate.

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Response to bamacrat (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:51 AM

14. The media likes him

He's been in bed with the media since day one. Keep in mind that the only reason he won in the first place (he did not get 50%) was that there was an independent that pulled votes from Corzine.

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Response to tabbycat31 (Reply #14)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:12 PM

15. Corzine was no prize either, he was all for

privatizing the turnpike and park way to get some quick cash for the budget - do you think the tolls would have been any better under private management? It is not like we can build other roads. You would think the democrats could come up with a more likable/knowledgeable candidate.

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Response to hollysmom (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 03:17 PM

16. I won't disagree there

If the NJ Democrats actually had a primary that year and someone stepped up and primaried Corzine, we would have held the seat.

Or Obama should have picked him for Treasury and gotten him out of NJ.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:15 PM

4. Oh, hey, the entire sea and sky and airwaves and internet will be awash with memes concerning 2016!

 

Hillary is inevitable!
Warren is unelectable!
Christie would win no matter what team he is on!
My favorite - Warren is too old! (Hillary is older)

Um, Yahoo News is not exactly a fair and balanced news source.
Or else they have gone so far right they have become official members of the Professional Left and are trying to sabotage the GOP......or the DNC, or something. Yeah, that's the ticket!
Anyways, there will be all sorts of experimental and hopeful and designed-to-harm-another-candidate memes. Feh.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:17 PM

5. Repubs will not nominate a third consecutive moderate for President.

Christie will not be the nominee.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:28 PM

6. just a few short years back, several here swore there was no way Rand Paul could beat a Dem

to ignore him as a viable candidate would be a mistake

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:28 PM

7. There are two questions here

The first is: why are the media ginning this up? That's simple: political news is slow in the summer, so they'll grasp at any straw at hand. Hell, the top-read story on Salon right now is called "Ted Cruz Could Beat Hillary." There is no more news; there's just constant information flow, with no one remaining who plays the old gatekeeper role of judging what's newsworthy.

The second question, though, is: is there anything to it? And here the answer is "probably not." To see why, you need to look at a may of the 2012 electoral college vote and ask, what on here could Christie take away from Hillary (or vice versa, I guess, though I really don't see Hillary improving upon the Obama map)? Maybe, maybe Christie has enough blue collar appeal to flip Ohio. But that's not enough.

The one thing I do think, though, is that the Tea Party lacks the balls to bolt the GOP, and will dutifully fall in line if Christie is nominated, just as they did with Romney (if you lurk at Freep at all, you know how quickly they went from one extreme to the other.) Though, of course I hope otherwise.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:46 PM

10. Well...

 

"Horse race" elections sell ads. Further, open-Presidency two-contested-primary elections sell a lot of ads.

The mainstream media has a fortune to be made by giving the appearance of an actual contest in this election and can double (or more!) that fortune if they can push Clinton to say now she will not run in 2016.

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:49 PM

11. Why are they pushing the meme that these will be the 2 candidates ? n/t

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Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:30 PM

12. Why is there a meme that either of them will even be the nominees? N/T

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