2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBoehner: ‘I have to be the Gestapo’ because nothing is ‘conservative enough’ for Tea Party
Even when a Republican admits the truth on a talk show that Republicans were responsible for the shutdown, the MSM ignores this, and does not retract its false equivalency stories blaming both sides for the government shut down.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/24/boehner-i-have-to-be-the-gestapo-because-nothing-is-conservative-enough-for-tea-party/
House Speaker John Boehner went on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno last night and blamed Republicans for shutting down the government last year.
Although Senate Republicans like Ted Cruz continue to insist that the government shutdown was the fault of President Obama, Speaker Boehner frankly admitted that the gambit was undertaken by members of his own party.
I told my colleagues in July that I dont think shutting down the government over Obamacare was going to work, because the president Im not going to negotiate. So I told them in August, Probably not a good idea. Told em in early September.
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Some members, he continued, I have to be the big brother figure. Some, I have to be the father figure. Others, I have to be the dean of students or the principal. Some of them, I have to be the Gestapo. Theres nothing I could do that was ever conservative enough for them.
GP6971
(31,013 posts)I can't pull up the link. Did he actually use the word Gestapo? If so, it just shows that he and is fellow repukes are total assholes.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The way it struck me was that he was disparaging some of the House Republicans because of the demands they placed on him.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)When I looked up, I saw my colleagues going this way. And you learn that a leader without followers is simply a man taking a walk, he said. So I said, You want to fight this fight? I'll go fight the fight with you. (Boehner discussing teabaggers and the shutdown + threat of default)
He is actually a full fledged teabagger. Just listen to him in his press conferences. He sounds just like Ted Cruz or Michelle Bachmann.
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MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Heywood J
(2,515 posts)"Did you mean boner Gestapo?"
(insert pictures here)
steve2470
(37,456 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Amazing.
Thanks.
JeffHead
(1,186 posts)steve2470
(37,456 posts)jaysunb
(11,856 posts)He could put the issue up for a vote and avoided the whole thing.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)religious kooks in their party.
DFW
(54,047 posts)Always having trouble keeping the troops in line..........
apnu
(8,722 posts)I have no idea what Conservatism is about anymore. And when I ask conservatives individually, I always get a different answer. Some are fad-feasting libertarians. Some are actual Libertarians. Some are teabaggers. Some are Randian zealots. Some are old school "Reagan Republicans" Some are even older school "Rockefeller Republicans" Some are Fundy Christian types. None of them agree on what being a conservative is.
That's their problem. And that's why they're constantly trying to run further and faster to the right than others in their own party. Until they can define what being a conservative is, they'll continue to have this problem.
The only consistent answer I can get from them is being a conservative means not being liberal. So then I ask them about voting rights for women and African Americans. They agree with me. I ask them about the 40 hour week and weekends and vacations, and they agree with me. I ask them if people have (or should have) the right to keep their medical situation between the individual and the doctor, and they agree with me (I say that instead of using pro-choice language, which sets them off and ends the conversation). And then I point out that these are all liberal principles and they freak the hell out.
The truth is, most Americans agree on most of the issues we face. We agree that poverty, health, jobs and security are critical and interrelated issues and we do not like or want and wish to solve.
But the "conservatives" in America have always, and will always, it appears, oppose issues simply because they feel that an issue isn't defined unless there is opposition and in the absence of opposition, they will provide it.
Janeane Garofalo said it best years ago: [paraphrasing] "With Republicans, everyday is opposite day."