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Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:48 PM

Rand Paul just opened a whole goddamn can of worms for himself...

On a morning show this a.m. He started ranting how Bill Clinton took advantage of a 20 year old woman who was working for him.. Feels that this is an issues which should be readdressed.

Are you fucking kidding... O.K. then, lets start examining every Racist Line which was written on his father’s newsletter beginning from its inception in 1984..

Be sure to scroll the link down to “Facts."..

Rand Paul, I’m just drooling to begin this fight..And then we can begin to talk about his father’s desire to control a woman’s reproductive choices..

Lets make this about Bill vs Ron...You stupid piece of crap.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/ron-paul-and-the-racist-newsletters-fact-checker-biography/2011/12/21/gIQAKNiwBP_blog.html

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Reply Rand Paul just opened a whole goddamn can of worms for himself... (Original post)
busterbrown Jan 2014 OP
Skittles Jan 2014 #1
djean111 Jan 2014 #2
busterbrown Jan 2014 #3
djean111 Jan 2014 #4
busterbrown Jan 2014 #6
djean111 Jan 2014 #8
karynnj Jan 2014 #21
djean111 Jan 2014 #22
kardonb Jan 2014 #19
Hoyt Jan 2014 #5
busterbrown Jan 2014 #10
Hoyt Jan 2014 #12
kairos12 Jan 2014 #7
busterbrown Jan 2014 #9
Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #16
rocktivity Jan 2014 #11
L0oniX Jan 2014 #13
AAO Jan 2014 #14
Taitertots Jan 2014 #15
Mr.Bill Jan 2014 #17
djean111 Jan 2014 #20
Beacool Jan 2014 #18
Cha Jan 2014 #23

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:49 PM

1. not enough juicy Obama drama

repukes have to reach way back

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:53 PM

2. Sadly, his base quite agrees with every racist line his daddy wrote, I believe.

 

Not to mention the reproductive choices.

Everyone who is the least bit sentient should have known that Monica would be dredged up again.
This is politics, and Bill should have kept his pants zipped. That was hubris.
As is the Third Way, now that I think about it.

eta - this has nothing to do with Obama, and everything to do with a head start on attacking possible Dem prez contenders.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:58 PM

3. Yep, however beyond that... He’s absolutely dead..

And the MSM is beginning to cover him a whole lot more, now that Christie’s shelf life has expired..
They see him as a moderate with new age ideas..

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:03 PM

4. I don't even really think Paul is spewing this stuff for personal "gain" - the entire

 

GOP/Libertarian/Etc. is digging through the old trash, just like the Dems are trying to demolish Cristie.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:15 PM

6. Are you actually conflating The Christie Story w/t Monica L. episode?

Christie’s crap is not old trash but very relevant.

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:20 PM

8. No - but all that is needed - is trash. Cheap headlines.

 

If I was GOP, and wanted to dampen female enthusiasm for Hillary - since of course we ladies think and vote for lady parts, evidently - I would go after the Bill and Monica story again. And again. This is politics. Look what happened to Edwards.
Conflation is not necessary in politics, just sound and fury.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:57 PM

21. Where are you coming from?

The Christie story is about abuse of power - and there are many stories suggesting a pattern of this. It is true that these stories should be proven before they become a very good, reasonable reason to say that he is not fit to be Governor - much less President.

As to Hillary, it is disgusting that you are using language that demean her as simply a candidate because she is a woman. I agree that the Republicans will go after both Hillary and Bill if she is the nominee - just as they went after Bill and Hillary in 1992, Al and Tipper in 2000, John and Teresa in 2004 and Michelle and Barak in 2008.

That, however, is NOT what happened to John Edwards. He was NEVER given the intense focus that the frontrunner and then the nominee gets. In 2007, the media actually ignored significant rumors of an affair - possibly because he was a weak third in the race, had a media "meme" as part of a perfect couple, and their was sympathy for his wife. Had he ended the affair - when he told his wife he did in December 2006, it is likely that nothing would have been written in any reputable media. (Note the child was conceived in late spring 2007 - probably a few months after Elizabeth and he told the world her cancer was back and it was stage 4.)

I agree that JUST sound and fury can make a difference - even as with the SBVT - when they are proven liars and the candidate a hero. If they resort to going after Bill's decades old transgressions, it is very hard to believe that that will make anyone contemplating voting for HRC change their mind. I think we already know far more than we want to on this.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:26 PM

22. As I have said, I don't think they are trying to sway people who are going to vote for HRC, they

 

just need their base to be energized against her. And a great deal of their base seems to lack critical thinking skills.
The Republicans I know would stick their fingers in their ears and squeal lalalalala I can't hear you! if I tried to use your excellent and logical reasoning on them.

I liked Edward's platform better than the others. But his ideas did not matter. And Hillary and Bill are billed as a perfect power couple.

Save your disgust for more important things. I was being sarcastic. The GOP will attack Hillary as a woman, and will assume that women will vote for her because she is a woman. Some right here at DU have the same assumption.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:23 PM

19. demo;ish

 

CC is doing a superb job just demolishing himself , he doesn't need any helping that department .

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:13 PM

5. I worked for a state medical association in the early 1980s. Paul sent his handwritten screed there.

It was like going back to the 1950s, reading that crap.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:23 PM

10. I wish you still had that paper...

Great thing to bring to show and tell... Seriously!!

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:10 PM

12. I do too. No one knew who he was back then other than some crazy ole racist physician from Texas.

In addition to the racist stuff, he encouraged doctors not to participate in Medicare, saying it would ruin the practice of medicine and the patient/physician relationship. He was a piece of work.

I didn't even make the connection until around 2008 during the Republican primaries. I bet there are some copies of it somewhere in an archive. If it didn't come out monthly, it was at least quarterly. I remember it was handwritten a several pages long.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:17 PM

7. He is a rancid can of worms.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:22 PM

9. He’s a scary threat in my opinion.

His bullshit, No war....Legalize drugs, Prostitution is o.k. makes him very attractive to dumb young voters..GOP Corporate powers are attracted to him.and his Objectivism bullshit..

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:06 PM

16. If he got the nomination and ran for president, Rand Paul's landslide loss would set a record.

See that fuzzy grey and white kitty in my sigline?

Her name is Missy.

Missy will be elected president before Rand Paul will.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:34 PM

11. Twenty-year-old women ARE women

Legally speaking, that is. She wasn't his wife, but she was an adult -- who had had two previous affairs with people old enough to be her father.


rocktivity

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:47 PM

13. Can someone please Baker Act him?

 

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 07:50 PM

14. i think we should readdress lying us into war.

 

Much more recent, and slightly more damaging to the world.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:05 PM

15. Bill Clinton? I LOL at Republicans having to go back almost 20 years to find anything to say...

 

When they are called out for their war on women.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:10 PM

17. When it comes to national elected office

campaigning to the republican base is campaigning against yourself. They did this to themselves and it's a beautiful thing. Keep speaking loud and clear, Mr. Paul, you are cutting your own throat.

The only thing dumber than campaigning against Obama, who is not running for office, is campaigning against Bill Clinton, who is not only never running for office again, but enjoys a higher approval rating than Obama.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #17)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:55 PM

20. The only thing dumber than campaigning against Obama, who is not running for office, is campaigning

 

against Bill Clinton, who is not only never running for office again, but enjoys a higher approval rating than Obama.

Not dumb - Big Dog will be very visible and IMO will be touted as giving Dems two-for-one in the White House. This is why he is included in polls, even though he is not running for office.

Bill has just as much visibility as Hillary. And the GOP is not trying to sway Dem voters, they are trying to get out the GOP votes, and trying to get the libertarians and the undecideds. Those voters won't really care about Monica's age or previous relationships, either. They will just see Bill and a young intern.

I would be astonished, though, if Hillary's people are not fully aware of and planning for this sort of thing.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:10 PM

18. The one who brought up Bill was his wife in a Vogue interview.

David Gregory asked him what Rand thought about his wife's comments. Paul should have deflected the question.

This is what his wife said:

'Kelley gives the famously dour senator something more than merely a pretty image-softener. The 50-year-old mother of three is an impassioned defender of her husband and his ideas. But she’ll also speak her own mind. While her husband jokes that his “gut feeling” that Hillary Clinton will not run for president is a good thing since “all the polls show her trouncing any opponents,” Kelley practically cuts him off to say that Bill Clinton’s relationship with Monica Lewinsky should complicate his return to the White House, even as First Spouse. “I would say his behavior was predatory, offensive to women,” she tells me.'

http://www.vogue.com/magazine/article/republican-senator-rand-paul-for-president/#3

BTW, Monica was 22, not 20 when she had a fling with Clinton. She testified that she had 9 incidents of oral sex with him from 1995 to 1997. I don't excuse Clinton for his irresponsible and stupid behavior, but Monica was no innocent. By her own admission, she was the one who seduced the president.

By the time Monica became an intern, she was having an affair with her married former high school drama teacher. An affair that lasted 5 years, until his wife found out about it. I think that Monica was a troubled girl with low self esteem issues.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,138553,00.html


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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:44 PM

23. K&R

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