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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 07:57 PM Jan 2014

Scarborough: Lewinsky Fair Game If Hillary Bashes GOP With 'War On Women?'

Invoking Monica Lewinsky against Hillary Clinton could be an appropriate tactic should she decide to pursue the familiar 'War on Women' attack on Republicans in 2016, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough suggested on Monday.

"If Hillary Clinton attacks the Republican Party's handling of women, and treatment of women and disrespect for women, and suggests they’re misogynists et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, it does seem to be a fair question to ask right now, a few years out, does the media have a responsibility to say, ‘Well, let’s see what happened when you were in the White House, and how women were treated when you were in the governor’s mansion and the White House?’ Is that fair?" the 'Morning Joe' host asked Monday morning.

Members of the show's panel were discussing Sen. Rand Paul's (R-KY) suggestion on Sunday that even though the Lewinsky scandal was not Hillary Clinton's fault, it could affect her prospects in 2016. Paul said that Bill Clinton's "predatory behavior" impacted his ability to talk about the Republican "war on women," but Scarborough thought it might affect Hillary Clinton as well.

"Does this not compromise Hillary Clinton's ability to bash Republicans as being terrible toward women, misogynist, et cetera?" he asked. MSNBC host Al Sharpton challenged Scarborough and said it would be a poor strategy for Republicans to attack Hillary Clinton over the Lewinsky scandal. "I dare the Republicans to take that to her, because if I’m her, I would dribble, hit the backboard, and score a three-pointer, because she was the wife in this. She was not one that I would want to mess with."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/scarborough-lewinsky-impact-hillary-clinton-war-on-women

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Scarborough: Lewinsky Fair Game If Hillary Bashes GOP With 'War On Women?' (Original Post) big_dog Jan 2014 OP
I still do not understand the logic of this train of thought.. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #1
as a wise man once said 'eatin sure as hell ain't cheating....' big_dog Jan 2014 #4
Glad he thinks of sex as something more mutual. aquart Jan 2014 #11
Of course there's no logic to it.... calguy Jan 2014 #10
I think you are absolutely right! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #13
You are absolutely WRONG & Joe is absolutely RIGHT. Especially when ... 66 dmhlt Jan 2014 #18
hahahahaha...you got me! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #20
I agree, Hillary should never have gotten a BJ from Monica Lewinsky tularetom Jan 2014 #2
I'm trying to figure out what Hillary had to do with it. She didn't do anything wrong. shraby Jan 2014 #3
She did the one and only thing that they hate her for.....she stuck by her man while they were VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #6
Hillary stayed with Bill kwolf68 Jan 2014 #25
and they really do not respect that.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #26
Err... Arneoker Jan 2014 #15
This will backfire badly. It's alsame Jan 2014 #5
I think Randi Rhodes pegged it this afternoon... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #14
and that test balloon will get shot down like the Hindenburg big_dog Jan 2014 #22
I agree with you....totally... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #23
Yesterday someone commented that for many is it Monica who? question everything Jan 2014 #24
GOP predators have been out in force luring pages Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2014 #7
I am not a Hillary fan, but what in the world does Monica Lewinsky have to do with Hillary? JDPriestly Jan 2014 #8
So Hillary should not talk about a applegrove Jan 2014 #9
Is he the guy who used to play a congressman on the primetime show, "My Dead Intern"? struggle4progress Jan 2014 #12
As Rachel put it Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2014 #16
Complete inability to understand anything about women BlueMTexpat Jan 2014 #17
This makes no sense to me. hamsterjill Jan 2014 #19
You're on the right track but.... louis-t Jan 2014 #27
thats the next tool in the rethugs playbook when this attack doesn't stick big_dog Jan 2014 #29
And did Mika just stood there and smiled? question everything Jan 2014 #21
Oh, what's the connection there, Mr. "what dead blonde?" Warpy Jan 2014 #28
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
1. I still do not understand the logic of this train of thought..
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jan 2014

HTF does one have to do with the other? Are they going to accuse Hillary of waging war on women next?

calguy

(5,295 posts)
10. Of course there's no logic to it....
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:35 AM
Jan 2014

But given the fact they are not willing to change their repressive policies regarding women's issues, it's about all they got at this point .

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
13. I think you are absolutely right!
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 04:35 AM
Jan 2014

they still are flailing around trying to find some way way to change the flavor of their distasteful policies.

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
18. You are absolutely WRONG & Joe is absolutely RIGHT. Especially when ...
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 08:53 AM
Jan 2014

That dead intern, Monica Lewinsky, turned up in Bill's office.

No - wait a minute ... that's not right, is it Joe?

It was YOUR intern, Lori Klausutis, who turned up DEAD in YOUR office, wasn't it?

Therefore Joe "I've-got-a-dead-intern-in-my-office...gee-what-are-the-odds-of-that" Scarborough - maybe you better not go there.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
6. She did the one and only thing that they hate her for.....she stuck by her man while they were
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jan 2014

attacking him! She was supposed to divorce his cheating ass....but Hillary didn't play into their hands. Now she is likely to be the next President...they just hate her!

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
25. Hillary stayed with Bill
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jan 2014

because despite his transgressions she evidently valued the sanctity of their marriage.

Arneoker

(375 posts)
15. Err...
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:52 AM
Jan 2014

I believe that she was the victim. And she was the ONLY victim. Bill's dalliance with Monica was not a public policy that affected millions of women in the country. (Any Republicans out there, can you see the difference now?) My wife (who happened to like Bill) laughed at the whole thing.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
5. This will backfire badly. It's
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 08:17 PM
Jan 2014

extremely sexist to judge her not on her own merits but rather by the actions of her husband. She has quite a portfolio of her own and everyone knows that.

And Joe Scarborough should STFU when it comes to interns.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
14. I think Randi Rhodes pegged it this afternoon...
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 04:38 AM
Jan 2014

they are sending up the test balloon of not being able to trust Bill Clinton around the White House...they want to bring up Bill in any conversation about Hillary to remind their base that they don't like "them".

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
22. and that test balloon will get shot down like the Hindenburg
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:23 PM
Jan 2014

they never learn, its like Charlie Brown and Lucy's football-- they cant win attacking HRC this way

question everything

(47,440 posts)
24. Yesterday someone commented that for many is it Monica who?
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:47 PM
Jan 2014

And if Randy Paul thinks that a 70 year old man is as Randy as he was when he was 50 - well, he may be disappointed later in his life.

applegrove

(118,501 posts)
9. So Hillary should not talk about a
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 02:32 AM
Jan 2014

majority of Americans' needs, women's needs, because of Bill. They are trying to get Hillary to make a deal with the devil.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
16. As Rachel put it
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 08:20 AM
Jan 2014

The idea that Bill's affair has anything to do with the Democrats' ability to speak about the Republican "war on women" betrays an "alarming level of confusion" among Republicans about what the "war on women" is about- and why they are too clueless to repair their horrible image among women. Has anybody noticed how unhinged they get over Democratic attacks over the "war on women"?

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
17. Complete inability to understand anything about women
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 08:37 AM
Jan 2014

is expressed in such a statement. But it certainly lines up with the GOP's "deaf ear" generally, which is about what one can expect from this completely overrated individual.

Please proceed, GOP. Please. And be prepared to live with the consequences.



hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
19. This makes no sense to me.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jan 2014

As Hillary stayed with Bill after his infidelity - one would THINK that would be what so many of the right-wing idiots would have wanted her to do. You know - honor the vows and all that.

If she'd left Bill, they would have jumped on THAT even harder saying that she left the marriage without trying to work things out.

I'm not following their line of thinking on this attack against Hillary. What exactly did Hillary have to do with Monica Lewinsky?

I'm wondering if they are trying to set up some type of right wing idiocy insinuating that Bill only cheated because Hillary wasn't "woman enough" for him or some other lame, brain, fool, idiotic thing.

Would love to see them say that out right and watch the smart women of America smile at their (the GOP's) stupidity.

louis-t

(23,273 posts)
27. You're on the right track but....
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 04:51 PM
Jan 2014

The RW idiots were putting out the "Hillary is gay" thing in the '90s. It must suck to be a repug.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
29. thats the next tool in the rethugs playbook when this attack doesn't stick
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:25 PM
Jan 2014

even worse attacks on HRC's sexuality etc when tit becomes apparent they cant win

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
28. Oh, what's the connection there, Mr. "what dead blonde?"
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 04:54 PM
Jan 2014

Because her husband had a tacky affair with an overheated groupie, there is no Republican war against women?

Good luck selling that, Mr. "Lori Who?"

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