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As Washington and the Europeans and especially the UK continue to decry Russian military aggression, the US and Russians have quietly entered into intense negotiations on a compromise for resolving their dispute over Ukraine, Washington and Moscow sources report. Moscow insists on keeping in place the military forces which took control of Crimea over the weekend, but is ready to discuss terms for restraining the Russian army from advancing into the Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine.The exchanges between the two powers are going through Berlin. The German government is making every effort to dispel the winds of war coming in from the east. Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Vladimir Putin conferred by phone and decided to talk again about ways of promoting the negotiations. In fact, the Russian president has couched his demands for further negotiations under four headings:
1. The Kiev government whichever form it takes must sign an obligation to abstain from any ties with NATO.
2. Neither the US, NATO or any other power will deploy X-Band or BX-1 radar stations on Ukraine territory whether on land, sea or air. This guarantee would additionally cover elements of an anti-missile missile shield and ballistic missiles placing Russia in their sights.
3. Restrictions will govern the types of weapons allowed the Ukrainian army.
4. Local military bodies will be established to protect the Russian-speaking and ethnic Russian regions of Ukraine.
Putin emphasized in his conversation with Merkel that, until those four conditions are met, Russian forces would remain where they are in Crimea and if this was deemed necesssary, advance into other parts of Ukraine. http://www.debka.com/article/23724/Moscow-will-halt-military-steps-in-Ukraine-%E2%80%93-only-after-a-US-guarantee-not-to-post-missile-shield-there-
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)truly huge issues for Putin--but it's Debka, which is not reliable, IMO.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)big_dog
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even better than ours on the whole
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)Not just missile defense, but strategic posture. We tend to ignore the geostrategic aspects of these developments.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Talk about a cash cow!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Because there isn't one!
big_dog
(4,144 posts)perhaps Merkel or Putin will verify it soon
bemildred
(90,061 posts)As is why would Debka want to promote this view?
And it's more or less what I expect Putin to do. And it's detailed.
But Debka is indeed not a reliable source.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)and playing a long tern strategy to boot
bemildred
(90,061 posts)But I'm not getting into it, people will attack me, and I don't have any fantasies about what I say being important. And I could be wrong, or it could all go bad anyway. Rolling the dice, we are.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Grain of salt. Learned over the years they are incredibly good at creative writing. Though they are good for fiction writers every where.
No more like Crimean Parliament voting to join Russia. Now that is like not surprising.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)(if you choose to believe it) Vald wants local militias of Russians in Russian speaking areas, to retain the right to occupy Crimea, and possible invade parts of Ukraine? Wow, he's cutting himself a pretty good deal there. Either way he gets part of a country he doesn't have control over.