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kimbutgar

(21,132 posts)
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 04:30 PM Mar 2014

Sitting out the 2014 election is a vote for the GOP

Last edited Mon Mar 17, 2014, 05:08 PM - Edit history (1)

If you don't vote we all lose. Let's send the rethugs and the Koch's a message we are the people not we are the corporations.

Vote like your life depends on it.....because it does.

If the rethugs get the house and senate they will take away our voting rights and we'll never be able to get rid of them unless we use our pitchforks. unfortunately people are too busy with their smart phones right now. Please prove me wrong. Vote vote and vote November 2014.

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Sitting out the 2014 election is a vote for the GOP (Original Post) kimbutgar Mar 2014 OP
I'm leaning toward demwing Mar 2014 #1
Get out and vote Gothmog Mar 2014 #2
Sitting out the 2014 election is also insanely STUPID. arcane1 Mar 2014 #3
The GOP and supporters will spend billions in this election. It is a must win for them. We don't AlinPA Mar 2014 #4
I have never sat out an election bigwillq Mar 2014 #5
And if your anything like me ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #6
I try to get everyone I know to vote bigwillq Mar 2014 #9
If the GOP takes the Senate in Nov., the GOP gets to decide who replaces Supreme Court retirees... blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #7
By all means vote for the "lesser evil" JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #8
Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. TeamPooka Mar 2014 #11
Oh good. Aphorisms are going to sway the day. JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #13
Your whole diatribe was an argument for not voting and not supporting party candidates. TeamPooka Mar 2014 #15
That's because the two sides aren't Dem and Republican, but... polichick Mar 2014 #12
Not a bad point. How many votes for the corporations? n/t JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #27
And this is why the GOP wins tabbycat31 Mar 2014 #23
GOTV! Or concede the future. nt TeamPooka Mar 2014 #10
More aphorisms. Concede the future to what? JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #14
Conceding it to losers like you will doom us all. TeamPooka Mar 2014 #16
Your comebacks are truely awesome. JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author JaneyVee Mar 2014 #19
or concede the future to theocratic fascists hell bent JaneyVee Mar 2014 #20
2008 to 2010 Cosmocat Mar 2014 #28
And you make my point... JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #29
It's a shit sandwich Cosmocat Mar 2014 #34
Leave out the first part, and JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #35
To whatever extent it helps here in Indiana Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2014 #17
Ditto from Georgia BlueDemKev Mar 2014 #24
Yup, and it is not my fault. n/t Raven Mar 2014 #21
+ 1000 MBS Mar 2014 #22
+1,000,000 BlueDemKev Mar 2014 #25
Always has. Starting with 1968 when many anti war voters were not "convinced" question everything Mar 2014 #26
Yes, and sitting out any election year is a vote for the GOP DeeDeeNY Mar 2014 #30
And the GOP will use similar scare tactics about Dems... polichick Mar 2014 #31
I got my pitchfork waiting in my garage kimbutgar Mar 2014 #32
You and me both! polichick Mar 2014 #33

Gothmog

(145,142 posts)
2. Get out and vote
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 04:46 PM
Mar 2014

We are working like crazy to get out the vote in Texas for Wendy Davis and Leticia van de Putte.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. Sitting out the 2014 election is also insanely STUPID.
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 04:53 PM
Mar 2014

And I question the motives (and loyalties) of anyone who suggests such a thing.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
4. The GOP and supporters will spend billions in this election. It is a must win for them. We don't
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 05:20 PM
Mar 2014

have billions, but we have the voters. It we don't vote they will take over the our governments.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. And if your anything like me ...
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 10:23 PM
Mar 2014

you will convince your semi-sane family members to vote, too ... and take 3 or 4 other folks with you to the polls.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
7. If the GOP takes the Senate in Nov., the GOP gets to decide who replaces Supreme Court retirees...
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 11:14 PM
Mar 2014

and it won't be anybody anywhere near being "moderate or Lefty," and that'll be all she wrote folks, for your lifetime and maybe your kids' lifetimes, too!

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
8. By all means vote for the "lesser evil"
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:41 AM
Mar 2014

because it's working so well for us now.

I simply cannot express how thoroughly dispirited I am with all these years of having nothing better that "the lesser evil" to vote for; no better cause than to avoid "the other side" gaining control.

Fot fifty years I have been hearing that my life depends on not letting the other side gain control. You know what? It doesn't. They have been in control several times, and I'm not dead. They have not caused mass die offs. Millions have not starved to death.

And when my side has regained control the wars continued unabated. We had "the surge" in Iraq. The corporations still controlled elections and Congress. The "change that you can believe in" never materialized. Corruption and corporate control still prevailed. Government secrecy and spying grew even bigger.

You aren't selling me.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
13. Oh good. Aphorisms are going to sway the day.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:52 AM
Mar 2014

And where did I say that I was against voting? Please cite the statement where I said I was against voting.

I'll stop "whining" when you learn how to read.

TeamPooka

(24,221 posts)
15. Your whole diatribe was an argument for not voting and not supporting party candidates.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:25 PM
Mar 2014

So you can stop whining now, again.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
12. That's because the two sides aren't Dem and Republican, but...
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 08:04 AM
Mar 2014

corporations and people.

Those who dare speak the way you have get shouted down by those still blindly working for "their" side.

Makes me think of that old protest song, where Stephen Stills sings about the signs mostly saying "Hooray for our side."

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
14. More aphorisms. Concede the future to what?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 10:02 AM
Mar 2014

Meaningless pap.

Were you around in 2006? Theis was the great battle. The year that Democrats were going to take ober the House and stop the evil Bush in his tracks. We were fucking euphoric; we took not only the House, but the Senate too. It was a Democratic moment in history. THE FORCES OF EVIL HAD BEEN DEFEATED BY THE ANGELS OF GOODNESS AND LIGHT.

THE WAR IN IRAQ WOULD BE BROUGHT TO A HALT. And then we had "the surge," and a renewal of the "Patriot Act" and thr "Military Commissions Act." All voted into being by a Democratic Congress that we had fought so hard to install.

I've lived the future, kid, and it most emphatically was not the future that I fought for.

Don't tell me I'm whining, and don't tell me I'm advocating against voting. What I'm saying is you can't sell me with all your bullshit about not letting the other side win, or how the other side will degrade the nation or trying to make me afraid of anything. Tell me what your side offers and convince me that your side will do what it says. I'm not buying your fear mongering.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
18. Your comebacks are truely awesome.
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 04:37 PM
Mar 2014

Complete with well reasoned arguement, thorough logic, sound reasons, and deep thought. Modern liberalism: nothing but empty slogans and mindless, unthinking, loyalty. Name calling and empty words. Pathetic.

Response to JayhawkSD (Reply #14)

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
28. 2008 to 2010
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:42 AM
Mar 2014

I share a good bit of your cynicism.

The republican's/conservatives are going NOWHERE, they are relentless and actually have continued to get worse and worse during the course of my life. Somehow worse than during the Clinton years.

That said ... When we had a democratic president and both houses of congress, we got ACA, Dodd/Frank ... Yes, both watered down and not near what they could or should have been. But, we had been going on over 4 decades waiting for SOME kind of health care reform.

Yeah, democrats are both typical career concerned politicians AND political pansies afraid to fight for a better way.

But, there still is a HUGE difference.

While I have lost any faith in the capacity of the people of this country to not repeatedly fall for the republican bullshit and allow us to make any real meaningful progress, it still is important for us to ring the bell on election day.



 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
29. And you make my point...
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:52 AM
Mar 2014

...by arguing policy and achievement rather than mere fearmongering about "your life depends on it, cede the future," or "we can't let the other side win."

I don't happen to agree with you particularly that these achievements are worthy of reelection, the "health care reform" we were promised turned into health insurance extension with a pretense at reform and financial re-regulation was a sham, but at least you offer "reasons to vote for" rather than engaging in mere jingoistic sloganeering, and so I applaud you.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
34. It's a shit sandwich
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 08:04 AM
Mar 2014

I find it mind numbing to know that I live in a country that is so darn stupid, we can't implement the most simple and common sense health care system possible - single payer.

But, again ...

What little progress we have made was done with democrats in charge of all three branches.

It isn't what it could or should be, but ...

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
35. Leave out the first part, and
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:14 AM
Mar 2014

...you are there. You are creating positive talking points. Condense it down to a soundbite and you have, "Good things happen with Democratically controlled governments."

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,407 posts)
17. To whatever extent it helps here in Indiana
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:24 PM
Mar 2014

I'll definitely be voting for any and all Democrats on the ballot.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
24. Ditto from Georgia
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 08:13 PM
Mar 2014

We should also give $ (whatever we can afford) to the DSCC and directly to campaigns in states like MI, CO, NC, IA, NH, LA, and AK.

While our votes may not matter much given the state we live in, we can still help GOTV in the battleground states!

MBS

(9,688 posts)
22. + 1000
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 05:21 PM
Mar 2014

We really, really do have to win this one. I've felt this way for every election since 2004, but this truly is our very last chance.

Fight the negativity and passivity and downbeat headlines, fight for Democratic candidates, stand proudly for Democratic achievements and principles, and GOTV!!

question everything

(47,472 posts)
26. Always has. Starting with 1968 when many anti war voters were not "convinced"
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 08:38 PM
Mar 2014

that Humphrey was the best candidate. And Nixon won. Twice.


DeeDeeNY

(3,355 posts)
30. Yes, and sitting out any election year is a vote for the GOP
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 12:14 PM
Mar 2014

Especially damaging in census years like 2010, when so many house seats were taken by Rethugs and then districts were gerrymandered so they could continue in the majority for years to come.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
31. And the GOP will use similar scare tactics about Dems...
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 01:20 PM
Mar 2014

End of the world!! Evil! Socialists! Blah, blah, blah...

Truth is, the enemy of BOTH sides - or rather, ALL the people - is the corporate complex that both parties - make that ONE party with two faces - currently serves.

The people who are having trouble voting have figured that out. Not to say I won't vote - so far I always have - but I get the absurdity of the whole deal and understand that this system only works for the corporations and the wealthy.

Eventually we'll have to engage in the "political revolution" that Bernie Sanders talks about.

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