2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Americans will elect Republicans even though they agree with Democrats
http://www.vox.com/2014/5/16/5723950/why-americans-will-elect-republicansThe thing I don't understand about this poll is the notion that the voters want the Republicans to retain some power in Washington in order to act as a check on President Obama. That's just plain crazy. I wish that more people could wake up and see what's really going on here. I realize that most people are busy just trying to scratch out a living and support their families in today's economy. They might not have much energy or time left at their disposal. It's easy to come home after work and collapse on the couch and have a beer and try to forget about everything. But people have got to start paying more attention. Ignorance is the biggest weapon that the Republicans have.
global1
(25,241 posts)what a great idea to get people out to vote. All states should do this. And in the Repub states where the Repubs would refuse to put it on the ballot - the Dems should make a big issue out of it - that the Repubs are not for raising people's wages. Sounds like a win-win situation to me.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)5% of workers earn the minimum wage. That issue may not be as important to everybody as you might think.
starroute
(12,977 posts)If the minimum goes from, say, $7.25 to $10.10, then it isn't just the 5% of workers making $7.25 who get a raise. It's also those currently making $8.00 or $9.00 or $9.50.
And minimum wage increases also tend to push up those slightly above the new minimum. If you're a manager making $10.50 an hour and the workers under you start making $10.10, you have a good case for expecting to be paid $12.00 or better.
So it really is a big deal for a lot of people.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)But again it comes down to how informed the average voter is. A lot of people don't stop to realize that until you point that out to them. The Democrats have got to do a better job of pointing out things like that.
Springslips
(533 posts)That most people don't need pointed out that people making under $10.10 will get a raise if the minimum wage goes to $10.10; because if not, then everyone on Earth should just commit collective suidcide now, as we'd be to dumb to exist.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)Instead of efforts to create jobs that pay more than minimum wage?
Minimum wage used to be where young people started out. A temporary situation that prepared them to move on to real jobs that paid real wages. A place ththat allowed them to make spending money because they did not yet have wives and families for which they were responsible.
Instead of demanding that the real jobs be restored, we settle for minimum wage jobs as today's careers. We complain that minimum wage is too low to support a family, as if it should be the goal of a family man to support his family on the standard that is accommodated by a minimum wage job. As if the working person today is expecting to make a career out of working in minimum wage jobs.
Minimum wage should not matter, because our workers should not be expected to work at minimum wage jobs for more than a brief, introductory period at the beginning of their working lives before they move on to real jobs.
vi5
(13,305 posts)When the Democrats themselves fail or refuse to vigorously make the case for it at every turn and every opportunity then how are people supposed to know? Yes, we all know because most of the people on DU are high information voters.
But the average person as you pointed out just doesn't have the time to get anything other than a top line information skim and there just aren't enough examples and soundbytes out there of Democrats vigorously and loudly stating what they stand for and what they will fight for.
And even then a lot of times those Democrats who do speak for those things, do another set of things altogether once the are in office.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)stand up and really work for what most of us believe Democrats should stand for. I agree.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Medicare, expanding Medicaid, and Social Security. Pryor, who was the most vulnerable Democrat was initially losing to a Teabagger Rethug, but had rebounded to move ahead 10 or 11 points just by standing on solid Democratic principles.
Dems are standing up. It is now up to us to GOTV!!!!!
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)they don't get out the truth enough and when they do it's in a long drawn out way that most people don't bother to listen to. The people we need to reach are the ones who think they know whats going on (from right wing catchy phrases) but don't but won't seek answers, and don't even know the questions.
More truth, less talk, I guess.
kairos12
(12,852 posts)thinking so they cash in on people's belief in slogans and 10 second talking points.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)That's why they tend to blame both parties equally. So a little education might be the first order of business.
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/15/republicans_insane_political_strategy_ruining_our_country_hurts_the_democratic_party_partner/
The majority of Americans depending on which survey you look at, between 60 and 75 percent cannot name which political party controls the House of Representatives, which party controls the Senate, or either.
Because most Americans dont know who controls Congress, when Congress misbehaves, as they have been doing for six years, most Americans arent sure who to blame.
Enter the Republican Chaos Strategy, based entirely on this statistical and political reality.
And common sense suggests that well over 90 percent of Americans know that Barack Obama is the president and that he is a Democrat.
The Republicans know this, too, and its the other half of their strategy.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)struggle4progress
(118,274 posts)R candidates won most of the races
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)Telling people that they should vote for Joe Republican cuz he's willing to cut government waste (social programs), hold schools accountable for their results (except charter schools), and increase the economy (by blaming Democrats).
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)Ignorance: Most people don't pay much attention to politics and/or government happenings in this country- at least not beyond what appears to immediately affect them, their friends, family, etc. Many people can't name the leaders of our government and/or how it really operates.
Tradition: Some people vote based on how their parents vote(d) and just keep on voting that way without really taking the time to determine if the people they are voting for accurately reflects their personal views, which might actually be better aligned with Democrats.
Apathy: This is sort of connected to ignorance in that some people don't understand how government works or hold unrealistic expectations about what can be achieved within a short amount of time and wind up feeling discouraged about how things are going and changing/not changing and, in response, they stop paying attention to politics, stop voting, etc.