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Tue May 20, 2014, 08:37 AM

Why is Turdblossom Talking about Hillary?

Two possibilities. One, Turdblossom has had a stroke of his own--but I don't think they would put him on TV if he was a blithering brain dead idiot.

Or Two, he realizes that the GOP has NO winner topics to run on this fall. The ACA helps dems. Ben-gay-gate is nothing. The GOP House is a laughing stock. Everyone hates the Kochs. So, he is going to try to make this fall's midterm elections be all about something that the GOP base can get together on---

---their hatred of Hillary.


So, cool. Let Turdblossom hate on Hillary. Meanwhile, I am going to focus on all the millions of people who are being denied healthcare by their own elected officials who think that genocide by lack of health care is the way to get ahead in the Republican Party (i.e Rick Perry). I dream of a 2016 in which any Republican who said "No" to the Medicaid expansion discovers that he is a pariah even among the GOP. Won't happen, but I can dream.

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Reply Why is Turdblossom Talking about Hillary? (Original post)
McCamy Taylor May 2014 OP
VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #1
Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #17
SmittynMo May 2014 #2
N_E_1 for Tennis May 2014 #3
Cartoonist May 2014 #6
N_E_1 for Tennis May 2014 #7
McCamy Taylor May 2014 #8
tblue37 May 2014 #12
DhhD May 2014 #14
Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #4
msanthrope May 2014 #5
Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #9
apnu May 2014 #10
Jakes Progress May 2014 #11
McCamy Taylor May 2014 #13
Jakes Progress May 2014 #27
tavernier May 2014 #15
cascadiance May 2014 #16
Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #18
cascadiance May 2014 #19
Beacool May 2014 #24
cascadiance May 2014 #25
TheKentuckian May 2014 #20
Jamaal510 May 2014 #21
sendero May 2014 #22
TBF May 2014 #23
3catwoman3 May 2014 #26

Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 09:53 AM

1. Because they are desperate

 

to kill her candidacy in its crib!

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #1)

Sun May 25, 2014, 01:16 AM

17. he's terrified of her

when people start to smear early it means they are worried. Rove is trying to put doubt into the minds of voters early.

Rove is past his sell-by date and should be locked up.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 10:06 AM

2. The internet is a wonderful thing

I thought you were referring to Rove, but had to make sure, as I was pretty sure I've heard Rove's name referred to as turdblossom. Welcome the internet. So I searched TurdBlossom, and Rove's name was all over the first page. BINGO.

And ya know, If i knew what a turd blossom actually was, a picture of Rove and Limbaugh come to mind first.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 12:10 PM

3. A couple of points...

I'll save my real first point cuz ya probably would not listen if I said it first.

Number one. No I have to disagree, not everyone hates the Kochs, most people, unless informed don't even know who they are! Oh yea, I can't stand the basterds. But.. And a big but, one t, let's get real, most don't know!

Second point is a little personal. I apologize in advance.
Please, don't lower yourself to the same kind of name calling, low point talking, etc. that we used to accuse the Republicans of. I know you shouldn't end on a preposition. Forgive me.

Third, really, another Clinton? You have your opinions, which I respect, I have mine.
Time to break the oligarchy.

Four, Medicare expansion is awesome. But there are better ways. Just make health care, not only insurance coverage, universal. If that is what you mean, we are on the same page. I'm a vet, the health care I get is awesome. I realize that there are some cases of abuse, but not overall.

This is the health care we should be getting as a country. It's just a little less then what the governing officials get, but still awesome. I guess I can dream also.

Thank you.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #3)

Tue May 20, 2014, 07:32 PM

6. re: 2nd point

It was GW who gave Rove the cute nickname of Turdblossom.

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Response to Cartoonist (Reply #6)

Tue May 20, 2014, 07:41 PM

7. And again...

We must sink to their level? We are not better?
Name calling is junior high school stuff.
No need in an adult discussion.

I am very sorry if I have offended you, that was not my intention.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #3)

Tue May 20, 2014, 07:54 PM

8. People who don't know where the name "Turdblossom" comes from must be new to politics

so welcome to politics! It is lots of fun and occasionally infuriating.

A couple of points. I wish it was a Medicare expansion. The Medicaid expansion is way better than nothing. The Medicaid expansion has allowed the state of New Mexico to attempt to recruit FPs (they won't find them) while rural hospitals close all across Georgia.

Second, as I have already stated in another thread, my official dream presidential candidate for 2016 is Julian Castro. That will be the case until 2015 and until/if someone I like better and someone who I think is more electable decides to run. Rove seems to be trying to push someone who will remain nameless to declare her candidacy early and also he seems to be pushing the Dems to rally around her early---so that he can give the GOP something to campaign against. However, we have plenty of time. 2016 isn't for two more years. In the meantime, I think we should all have fun promoting the Dem we love best---like my own beloved Julian Castro! I would love to see the GOP try to work up their base in a frenzy against Julian Castro. Come on, Karl. You can do. Tell your fellow Republicans why they should fear the mayor of San Antonio! I am sure the nation's fastest growing demographic will be very interested in hearing what they have to say.

Check out this great picture! I'm ordering a bumper sticker! Castro 2016!


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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #8)

Wed May 21, 2014, 10:42 PM

12. He will probably be the VP nominee either in 2016 or 2020--or possibly even

the presidential nominee in 2020. Giving him the 2012 keynote address marked him as the one being groomed for a future presidential campaign. That's what they did with Clinton and Obama, too.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #8)

Thu May 22, 2014, 05:55 PM

14. Wish he would have ran for Texas Senator this year. It was hard for some to get behind Davis

in the Democratic Primary but would have been a snap to get behind Castro for Senator. Little campaigning would have been necessary; a missed opportunity in my opinion. And according to results one of a recent State Referendum, one does not have to resign from their current position to run for another office.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 02:52 PM

4. The ONLY politics popular amongst the Base is attack politics....

 

The nastier the better.

They're like children saying, "Oooo! That's a good one! That'll piss em off!"

As far as actual solutions and policy?

Don't talk about it.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 04:36 PM

5. Because that woman scares them shitless. She always has. nt

 

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Tue May 20, 2014, 11:28 PM

9. He is worried and he knows the GOP won't win

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed May 21, 2014, 07:59 AM

10. Answer: rove is desperatly seeking relavancy.

And he comes up short. He knows it.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed May 21, 2014, 07:06 PM

11. It's Spring. The turd is blossoming.

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Response to Jakes Progress (Reply #11)

Thu May 22, 2014, 07:05 AM

13. Jakes! Long time no see!

We've had a drought in North Texas. Only had ONE bearded iris this year ( ) and the pomegranate still has not bloomed. So, it seems unfair for a Turdblossom to bloom.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #13)

Wed May 28, 2014, 12:27 AM

27. Turdblossom stole the water, just like the mother earth frackers.

I take long hiatus periods from the news and even DU. Better for my health, my sanity, my relationships, my cats.

It is good to see you again though.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Thu May 22, 2014, 07:20 PM

15. i'm trying to be relevant!!!

You believed my evil shit before!!! Why can't you believe it now!!!!!

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Fri May 23, 2014, 12:15 PM

16. Because his corporatist backers want another corporatist to run for the Dems...

 

If he talks about Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, or ANY other candidate that is more beholden to the 99% than the corporate sector, he in effect endorses more support for them within the Democratic Party to win the nomination in 2016. Giving more attention to Hillary (in his mind) is an effort to make it appear that the GOP is more worried about Hillary than anyone else to get Dems to crown her without any primary to speak of in an effort to get progressives to stay home like they did in the 2010 election that enabled the GOP to take many state houses to control districting, etc. after the census.

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Response to cascadiance (Reply #16)

Sun May 25, 2014, 01:37 AM

18. They actually are worried about Hillary this time

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #18)

Mon May 26, 2014, 06:54 AM

19. Would that be because she's going to change and campaign more as a progressive?

 

Unfortunately, I think a lot of the public learned from their experience with Obama, that you need to deliver more than just words to appeal to progressives any more. She needs to deliver on DEEDS to attract the progressive vote this time around in the primaries. She's not in a position of power to deliver on deeds to overcome experiences such as voting for war, campaigning for and voting for raising H-1B caps to screw many tech workers in this country, being a part of Wal-Mart's board, amongst other things.

I think Karl Rove knows that people are fed up and want someone more progressive than Hillary has been. He also knows that his corporatist backers don't like the threat of someone outside of the circle of candidates like Obama and Hillary, etc. that will be more under control of special interests lobbyist money. They want to have both Republican and Democratic Party candidates be in that mix to maintain their control. That's why they want her to be "annointed" as soon as possible. They were trying to do that last election too, but fortunately from their point of view, Obama winning wasn't as big a loss of control as someone more progressive might have been then.

They are MORE worried about someone like Warren or Sanders getting elected than either Obama or Hillary or for that matter any Republican candidate. That's why they want to see the primary process avoided as that is where they have the most to lose.

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Response to cascadiance (Reply #19)

Tue May 27, 2014, 11:54 AM

24. Please, Sanders has as much of a chance of being elected president as I do.

As for Warren, she has repeatedly said that she's not interested in running. Besides, she's currently polling in single digits. At this point in time the GOP is not worried about Liz Warren. Of course that could change, two years is a lifetime in politics.

If Rove and the rest of the RW clown car are going after Hillary is because she consistently outpolls everyone, and by a substantial margin. This is not 2008. It's unprecedented to mount such an extensive attack against a non-incumbent candidate who hasn't even announced whether she will run in 2016.

So no, they are not more worried about a Sanders or a Warren run.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #24)

Tue May 27, 2014, 10:50 PM

25. They aren't worried about her "numbers" but what she might DO far more than Obama or Hillary...

 

... would do to go after the corporatist oligarchic agenda that has manifested itself as a controlling two party entity between the Republicans and the "Third Way" Koch purchased influence over the Democratic Party that has produced 20 years of increasing corruption and a Supreme Court that's almost ready to rubber stamp real democracy out of existence.

Hillary hasn't announced she's running, and neither has Warren. They are EQUAL in that respect. When asked if she will not run in 2016, Warren continues to not explicitly qualify her answer "in 2016", but just says she's not currently running. She's not stupid. If she announces it now, she's got a big target painted on her for over a long time that let the corporate controlled media try to bury her. Rove knows this, and it is why he wants to make sure that the Republicans and corporatist Democrats don't even acknowledge the possibility of Warren to minimize any kind of momentum building. He knows she's far more dangerous than Hillary or Obama (or for that matter the already "doomed" from the start John Edwards in last election), so they keep counting on people like you to be their echo chamber to say that Hillary is the "chosen one" so that they know even if the Republicans lose, the uber corporatist party will still win with someone like Hillary in the end so that they don't lose their control.

As you note, two years is a lifetime, and it is way too early to be concerned just about numbers. That isn't what has Rove and the corporatists worked up. It is the possibility of a true populist progressive winning that they want to keep from happening, even now and even if their corporate media has the polls making it look like it's not possible now.

In 2008 there was a similar drumbeat for Hillary then, and how did that turn out? I'm sure that even then, the corporate lobbyists knew that Obama was more "controllable" than someone like Warren or Sanders would be. I noted that back then too.



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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 09:20 AM

20. Why to push disaffected Democrats to circle the old wagons for her so that even

if his party loses his policy direction continues. Hillary Clinton is not a threat to the status quo but rather an ardent friend, Ham Loaf is a creature of the establishment.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Mon May 26, 2014, 04:39 PM

21. Bush ll must've

hated KR's guts to give him that nickname "Turdblossom". I still can't get over how ridiculous that is. What a joke!

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Tue May 27, 2014, 05:42 AM

22. Same reason others talk about Benghazi...

..... they are trying to discredit her any way they can. Because they are pretty sure they cannot beat her any other way.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Tue May 27, 2014, 07:59 AM

23. Um ---

"blithering brain dead idiot"

And how would we tell the difference?

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Tue May 27, 2014, 11:41 PM

26. We need to remove the...

..."blossom" portion of his name.

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