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Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:51 AM

Wake Up, Democrats, and Start Working, Republicans Now Lead Senate 52-48

A number of races have flipped in the last month...it could all come down to the ground game...
http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2014/10/senate-update-election-2014-wake-up.html

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Reply Wake Up, Democrats, and Start Working, Republicans Now Lead Senate 52-48 (Original post)
tgards79 Oct 2014 OP
Scuba Oct 2014 #1
vi5 Oct 2014 #2
on point Oct 2014 #6
Vots Oct 2014 #3
brooklynite Oct 2014 #4
FBaggins Oct 2014 #5
Vots Oct 2014 #13
FBaggins Oct 2014 #15
Vots Oct 2014 #20
Vots Oct 2014 #21
sheshe2 Oct 2014 #26
upaloopa Oct 2014 #27
trueblue2007 Oct 2014 #9
bigdarryl Oct 2014 #7
FBaggins Oct 2014 #8
tgards79 Oct 2014 #11
DFW Oct 2014 #17
FBaggins Oct 2014 #19
blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #10
RBInMaine Oct 2014 #12
4dsc Oct 2014 #16
Corey_Baker08 Oct 2014 #14
tgards79 Oct 2014 #22
Corey_Baker08 Oct 2014 #23
DFW Oct 2014 #18
tgards79 Oct 2014 #25
oldandhappy Oct 2014 #24

Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:53 AM

1. Wake up, Democratic candidates, and start appealing to ...

 

... the 50% of the electorate who usually don't bother to vote instead of trying to peel off the mythical moderate Republican voter!!!

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:04 AM

2. What you mean their usual tactic isn't working this time?

 

You mean cowering in a corner and waiting for the Republican candidate to implode and do or say something so stupid it ruins their chances isn't proving a winning strategy this time?

How surprising.

You mean not making a case why people should vote for Dems other than that "the other guy is crazy" isn't motivating people.

How very shocking.

Doesn't matter though. Whatever happens it will be the left's fault for not showing up. No proof or anything of the sort will be given for that assertion yet it will be taken as bible truth by our very serious, centrist leaders.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:37 AM

6. 1000+ ^^. This is leadership failure. Not voter failure

Part of results of Dem party supporting blue dog Dems over legitimate dems in the last few election cycles. Blue dogs not different enough and no real dems left to make the case for dems. Inside the beltway cronyism implodes and Dem leadership has only itself to blame

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:24 AM

3. ...

And what if your Dem is a neocon?

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Response to Vots (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:02 AM

4. Name a "neocon" Demo up for Election...

who's voted counter to Democratic positions in any significant way.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:30 AM

5. Just as imporatantly, name one...

that isn't running against a candidate who is much farther to the right.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 10:07 PM

13. Warhawk Dems are definitely present

Sure the Repub is further to the right on everything else, but my number 1 issue is US interventionism. And when my Democrat rep is voting for war resolutions and supports foreign intervention, I can not possibly vote for them.

I have no right to send some kid to die for nothing, and that's what I'd be doing in my situation.

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Response to Vots (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 05:29 AM

15. And since that's the only issue that matters at all..

... oh wait. I forgot that it wasn't.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 11:03 PM

20. To me it does

It's my #1 issue. I find it morally wrong to send people off to die for unjust reasons. I will absolutely not support that.

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Response to Vots (Reply #20)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 11:05 PM

21. Peace

If that means I just write in a real liberal or don't vote at all, so be it. Having no blood on my hands trumps everything else

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Response to Vots (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 9, 2014, 06:04 PM

26. Consider this please.

You will have blood on your hands if you toss away your vote and the GOP wins. The GOP has done their best to see us dead and we sure as heck are dying.

Programs will be cut and remedies will be stalled for the elderly and food assistance for children. Veterans benefits stalled, raising the damn minimum wage can't pass, simple laws about gun control are ignored, more so much more. Do you really think people are not dying?

Peace, yes I want that too. I want the peace for a child not to starve. I want the peace for the elderly knowing they can live out the rest of their lives in dignity. I want veterans that had to fight those wars have a sense of peace and dignity for serving their country and the quality care they so richly deserve.

Peace~

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Response to Vots (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 9, 2014, 06:15 PM

27. Geez that attitude pisses me off as I am sure you

intend it too. I wish there was a board were people like you could go and kiss each other's platitudes.
Your sanctimonious bullshit will not help with jobs or hunger or education or anything else. Stay home and be part of the problem that gave the Senate away and by God own it!

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Response to Vots (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:42 PM

9. HEY NEWBIE, NAME ONE. provide facts

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:43 PM

7. Thats based on the latest KOS polling

 

Marko (kos) was on Mark Thompson show Thursday and said he's not trusting even his latest polling this time around.Because there's a new poll out everyday on Senate races that jump from big numbers to numbers.He said polling doesn't do that

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Response to bigdarryl (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:30 PM

8. Where do you see that?

It appears consistent with the other predictions and polling.

http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/senate-model/comparisons.html

Worse than that... there's no gurantee that Orman or King would caucus with Democrats if we no longer held the majority.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 07:07 PM

11. All the more reason to get to the phones

The Senate will be lost without massive GOTV efforts by Dems.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 11:28 AM

17. One poll stands out

I know only one independent pollster and that's Charlie Cook, one who I consider to be truly independent of outide influences. Interestingly, he is the one with the most tossups where others see solid Republican victories.

I also know Angus King slightly, and I am fairly confident he will continue to caucus with us. He is a really nice guy in person, and people like that don't tend to hang around the likes of Mitch McConnell and Marco Rubio.

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Response to DFW (Reply #17)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:06 PM

19. There's a problem with that

Charlie Cook isn't a pollster. He's a political analyst who uses the same polls we see (as well as some inside connections to some party pollsters) to evaluate the races.

And the reason that he has the most tossups where others show strong leanings toward or party or the other... is that he has a longstanding policy of not placing an incumbent any worse than "tossup" until just before the election unless there's an indictment involved (or similar handicap). So it doesn't matter, for instance, that Mark Pryor is fairly regularly polling in the low 40s (even cracking into the high 30s in the most recent PPP poll)... or that incumbents with those kinds of numbers are is serious trouble. He's going to continue calling that race a toss up. If that changes, we'll know that we're in real trouble... because the only time I can remember that happening was 2010.

I also know Angus King slightly, and I am fairly confident he will continue to caucus with us.

I'm sure that he'll continue to vote with us on issues of importance, but he represents his constituents. If Republicans take the senate with a clear majority (meaning, for instance, that we aren't waiting on a LA runoff to decide things), his constituents could be better served by someone in the majority caucus.

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 05:06 PM

10. Between a REAL Republican and a wanna-be Republican, the voter goes REAL every f-cking time.

 

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:51 PM

12. As you've seen from the responses, the TeaLeft won't listen. Don't waste your time. Go campaign.

 

The TeaLeft will stay home and bitch away about the Democrats in TeaLeft purity, thus helping the ReSCUMlicans win, then bitch even louder and blame the Democrats even more for forcing them to stay home on their couches instead of taking a few minutes to go vote. Round and round their nonsense goes, where it stops...well, it never will.

You're pissing into the wind here.

Go talk to your friends and neighbors. Go phonebank. Go knock on doors for your Dem candidates. But don't try to convince the TeaLeft.

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 09:46 AM

16. Odd they are not talking to the Tealeft either

 

If only they made some kind of appeal with their campaign promises to the Tealeft that might get them out to vote. Most of the candidates lack the will and spirit to kick their opponents to the ground during the campaign because they are seeking out the middle ground. Fuck the middle ground. If I want middle ground I'd vote for republicans.

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:47 PM

14. Democrats Young & Old, The Consequences Of Not Voting In November Are Dire!!!

If Your not going to the polls to vote for Democratic candidates in November, in my opinion you have no place here on DemocraticUnderground.com and I hope that is not the case....

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Response to Corey_Baker08 (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 5, 2014, 09:25 AM

22. Not only going to the polls, but...

...you need to get others to the polls! If you are on DU you are already unusually politically active. You are the type who should be calling to GOTV.

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Response to tgards79 (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 8, 2014, 08:48 PM

23. +1000

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 11:31 AM

18. I have already voted

I got my absentee ballot last week (Dallas is usually very good about that). I hold no illusions of unseating Cornyn in the Senate, but I still hold out a sliver of hope that Wendy will surprise us all in Austin.

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Response to DFW (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 9, 2014, 05:31 PM

25. Slight chance

Abbott's lead is about 10, and this has not changed for months. But it is not 20 and that itself is encouraging. Turnout a must.

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Wed Oct 8, 2014, 10:38 PM

24. I worked my precinct.

Have been seriously surprised by minimal support for local candidates by local dem org and by minimal support for congressional candidates by national dems. From now on my money goes directly to candidates.

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