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Sun Nov 2, 2014, 03:02 PM

Prop. 45 in Cali? Unfucking believable...

I have not seen one ad. on T.V or listen to one ad. on the radio explaining the implications of this Prop. not passing.Meanwhile the Insurance companies have spent millions upon millions fighting to defeat this proposition. Every day I hear at least 10 ads a day lying about how one "elected politician " they don’t mention that he is the Insurance Commissioner) will have the power to control insurance rates which will “hurt small businesses and the general public” Its the fucking Insurance Commissioner .

There is a good chance this wont pass... Amazing..

http://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_45,_Public_Notice_Required_for_Insurance_Company_Rates_Initiative_(2014)

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 03:50 PM

1. Come to think of it, neither have I. I am certainly voting yes on 45.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 04:00 PM

2. The League of Pissed Off Voters says yes on 45

https://medium.com/@TheLeagueSF/pissed-off-voter-guide-e031d760e5b2

On posting, I see that the link doesn't get you there. You'll need to copy and paste into your browser.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:27 PM

3. Here's why the insurance industry is fighting it

From your Ballotpedia source, the final clause says:

"Prohibit health, auto, and homeowners insurers from determining policy eligibility or rates based on lack of prior coverage or credit history." I was living near Oregon when an initiative measure was on the ballot to stop credit reports from being used by the auto industry to determine rates and eligibility. The industry spent megabucks to convince people from a fairly blue state to vote in favor of discriminating against their neighbors on the basis of something that has zilch to do with their driving habits and ability.

Not surprised that this is going on in CA, about two-thirds of Oregon voters were persuaded to let insurance companies keep on screwing people when they were down.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 10:34 PM

4. Good Point....

But as usual the Health Insurance Industries have access to millions in order to perpetuate lies.
How the hell can common sense initiatives compete with their millions upon millions? They fucking can’t.

Another reason to get the money out of politics... It gets me so sick..

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 2, 2014, 11:21 PM

5. And while there's a possibility of limits when it comes to candidates

I simply cannot see how it could be limited (Constitutionally speaking, that is) when it comes to issues on a ballot.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:37 PM

6. One of the reasons I voted yes on 45, the other reason- I read the initiative and think

its a very good attempt to protect consumers.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Tue Nov 4, 2014, 08:40 PM

7. The sad thing is, the initiative process was put in place to give power back to the people

 

back in the days when the Big Four owned the legislature lock, stock and barrel.

Now the legislators are (somewhat) more independent -- but the oligarchs can manipulate public opinion on an initiative with the greatest of ease, through these gargantuan media buys. Look what happened to the GMO-labeling one last time.

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