Obama, for the coming two years, should be vetoing all those Republican bills that will be served up

[Cal33]

for the benefit of the corporations only, and damaging to the 99% of Americans. Just
remember the 400+ filibusters that the Republican senate had served up during his
first term as president. This would be killing two birds with one stone:
1. Doing what is good for America, and
2. Giving the Republicans a taste of their own medicine.

Do you think Obama would do it?

And you can bet that the Repubs. will be coming up with all kinds of legislation to make
the rich still richer, and which will kill off more of the poor, and eventually also many of
the middle-class. That seems to be the the only agenda they have been serving up so far.

[gordianot]

1. He might as well get on the veto they will impeach him no matter what he does.

[Cal33]

4. Yes. They will impeach him regardless. I think the two main reasons are:

1. He is not one of them.

2. He is black.

Either one is enough for the Republicans to impeach any president. They impeached Clinton
and had no good reason to do so. Obama has a double reason.

Bush, Jr., on the other hand had every reason to be impeached. But Pelosi put impeachment
off her table.

How much more incredible and paradoxical can it get?

[immoderate]

2. Republicans will tack their wishes onto essential legislation.

It will not be pretty.

--imm

[Cal33]

6. Yes. I'm banking on it. And this will eventually help some slow Democrats to realize how wrong

they were in not having voted in Nov. 2014. I hope Dems. will vote en masse in 2016!

[vi5]

3. I guess we'll see, won't we

This will lay things pretty bare and draw a clear line in the sand.

Republicans will try to pass all of their idiotic plans.

Democrats have a choice to fillibuster and demand 60 votes like the Republs did, or they won't.

If laws pass Obama will either veto them or he won't.

No more spin, no more archaic rules or 12 dimensional chess or whatever other excuses.

We'll know where the President and our Congressional leaders stand.

[Cal33]

9. And if Obama vetoes them, he should see to it that his reasons for doing so will be publicly and

widely broadcast, explaining how much damage the proposed legislation would do
to average Americans, how much it would profit the few super-rich, and back his claims
up with evidence and examples.

The days of appeasing the Republicans are over. He ought to be able to see that no
amount of his giving in to them will appease them. And furthermore, they'll still be
doing their best to impeach him. They are out to destroy him, Democrats, and any and
everyone who does not think they way they do.

This is what the present-day Republicans (NeoCons, Corporatists, Fundamentalists, Tea
Partiers) are made of. The Old Republicans have long ceased to exist. It was a silent
and very successful coup. The present-day old-timer Republicans don't even know it
happened. They still think they are "voting Republican."

[vi5]

10. Old style Republicans exist

They're called Democrats.

It's old style Democrats that (mostly) cease to exist.

[Cal33]

11. Unfortunately, what you say is also true. There are very few Progressives like FDR and

Truman today.

Nothing is permanent in this world of ours - not even the real rulers of America: the silent
powerful ones who are pulling the strings but never are in public office themselves. They
prefer to remain unknown. They, too, will come to an end some day, as everything on
earth must. This is one thing that cannot change.

[d_b]

5. Approve everything

Seriously - let 'em have it.

"Blah blah blah found that x% of voters feel the middle class is getting the shaft, so, naturally, these dipshits voted for republicans"

Give these assholes what they want, perhaps then they'll understand what republican policies really do, because right now our fate is being determined by assholes who base their vote on TV commercials - Fuck That. Give 'em something real!

Give these clowns the circus they voted for: Tea party policy is just what this country needs! Can you imagine? Hell, we could probably elect Chomsky after THAT fucking disaster!

Sure, lots of folks will suffer in the short-term, but we gotta think long-term. Our grandchildren will thank us for it.

Bring on the United States of Kansas; bring on the Thunderdome

I'm Ready.

[mikekohr]

7. When they get what they want working people suffer, long and hard.

The ultimate dichotomy in this election is progressive ballot initiative like increasing the minimum wage passed by overwhelming majorities. These same voters gave Republican candidates that adamantly oppose those same policies, their vote as well.

[gordianot]

8. Salus Populi Suprema lex esto

The Missouri State Motto. When I was in Junior High was told this motto means: "Let the will of the people be the supreme law". When I took High School Latin our teacher took issue with this translation. It could be translated "Let the good of the people be the supreme law" or "Let the health of the People be the Supreme Law". On one hand the "will" of the people fits the old Roman concept of the rods of the people fascist ax symbol which modern day American Congress adopted. She pointed out the translation of "will" and other translations were a huge difference. This is about all I took away from Latin in High School.