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Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:06 AM

Democratic Senator Won't Stand for Obstruction in the Senate by

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/joe-manchin-block-gop-agenda-bs

snip:

Manchin: I Won't Put Up With 'Bulls**t' If Dems Try To Obstruct GOP

Excuse me while I do my morning stretch and retch.



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kairos12 Nov 2014 OP
djean111 Nov 2014 #1
Recursion Nov 2014 #14
avebury Nov 2014 #2
Demsrule86 Nov 2014 #3
avebury Nov 2014 #4
rtracey Nov 2014 #6
avebury Nov 2014 #16
CityDem Nov 2014 #20
Arneoker Nov 2014 #15
enough Nov 2014 #5
belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #7
Blue Idaho Nov 2014 #8
EEO Nov 2014 #9
Cal33 Nov 2014 #10
blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #11
Cal33 Nov 2014 #12
smorkingapple Nov 2014 #13
ImaPolitico Nov 2014 #17
kairos12 Nov 2014 #19
libman100 Nov 2014 #18
CityDem Nov 2014 #21

Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:14 AM

1. Tell me again why we should always vote for the "D".

 

All we are doing is hastening the rout of liberals from the New Democratic Party. Which is the object, I think.
When someone can say "the liberal wing of the Democratic Party", seems obvious.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 06:14 AM

14. Because his vote decides committee assignments and majorities and breaks filibusters

I'm not sure why DU has such trouble grasping that.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:33 AM

2. Typical. If the Democratic Party does not learn

to "grow a pair" within the next two years I see no reason to come out and vote in 2016. If I had an Al Franken, Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders I would be out there to vote but I am at the point where I refuse to vote for DINOs anymore. I am ready for a new, more progressive party and that is just not the Democratic Party.

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Response to avebury (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 07:54 AM

3. courts

vote for the courts...no matter how liberal the party becomes if we have conservatives on the court for the next thirty years it won't matter.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:26 AM

4. As long as the Republicans control Congress

there is no chance of getting more progressive liberals on the bench. We have already seen that.

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Response to avebury (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 09:53 AM

6. Just the senate

 

Just the Senate, and it is NOT that far out of reach. I will predict 2 years of do nothing but attempt to undermine ACA and cut social security and medicare, and the country will not stand for it. Democrats will learn over this and the Senate and Whitehouse will be Democratic controlled in 2016.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:16 AM

16. Obama has not been able to make all the court

appointments that he has wanted to so having a Democrat in the WH does not guarantee that we can get Progressives on the bench.

The big problem is that the Democrats continue to roll over for the Republicans in Congress. Until that stops, Republicans and Tea Party hacks will continue to run everything either directly or by obstruction. I just don't see the Democrats growing a spine and standing up to the school yard bullies.

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Response to avebury (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:08 PM

20. Kind of harsh

Reid changed the senate rules and caught a ton of flack for changing the filibuster rules for judicial confirmations. We were able to place several judges on the DC Court of Appeals that would not have happened if the filibuster rules remained the same. Now that the repubs are in charge, the approval of judges will screech to a halt and only the most conservative judges will be approved. Dems did the best they could under the circumstances.

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Response to avebury (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:59 AM

15. Gee, you're disappointed!

What news! Guess what, there are many non-indulgent who get no warm fuzzies in voting for less than great Democrats, but they do so because it makes a difference regardless. Don't like that? Poor you! Really don't like that? Then get off your butt and get involved! Check out your local Democratic committee and see what you can do to promote people who are more progressive and who can win elections! (Because winning elections is what you need to do to, you know, actually have an effect on things, as opposed to getting that precious warm fuzzy.)

Or just indulge yourself, vote for some dumb third party, and be useless.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 08:59 AM

5. We've got to stop thinking of the Democratic Party as a real thing. (nt)

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:08 AM

7. any reason why we should give a sht about what baron machin has to say

 

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 11:52 AM

8. Punk Ass Traitor.

With Democrats like this - who needs Republicans?

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:12 PM

9. THIS is the problem with moving political discord to the right.

People like this asshole run as Democrats and are moderate Republicans.

Oh, and Democrats are pussies. They work with these asshole Republicans when the GOP tells the Dems to go fuck themselves whenever the GOP is the minority party. Pathetic.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 01:30 PM

10. It depends on what kinds of legislation Manchin and McCaskill would support. Would they support

 

the repealing of Obama's health care bill? If so our nation would return to having
47,000 unnecessary deaths per year of Americans, because they couldn't afford
medical treatment. This is indirect murder -- but it's murder, nonetheless. Would
these senators, do this just for the sake of "getting something done?"

I doubt it. It's too horrible to contemplate. But I can also hardly expect that
the Conservatives would now turn around and start to legislate for the benefit of all
the American people. Don't expect psychopaths to change. They can't, and won't.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 05:41 PM

11. Another phony DINO working for the GOP. Just like NY Governor Cuomo ("D").

 

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 06:24 PM

12. As far as I can remember, his father was a genuine Democrat. How come he's so different?

 

And Ron Reagan, the son of the Republican president, is a Progressive!

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Wed Nov 12, 2014, 10:30 PM

13. This is why it sucks to be better than the R's

We should play their game but we're better than that.

It burns me too but obstructing just to show that government doesn't work is their game not ours.

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 01:28 PM

17. Dems Warn GOP Against Threatening Obama on Immigration House Democrats say the president should move

Sorry, but I am new here. Just learning the ropes.

It's about time, Dems start sticking up for the president!
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/11/12/dems-warn-gop-against-threatening-obama-on-immigration?int=995508

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Response to ImaPolitico (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:59 PM

19. Welcome to DU

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Response to kairos12 (Original post)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:44 PM

18. Machin shouldn't be re-elected

When he run again he better not be shocked if Dem voters don't come out and support him.

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Response to libman100 (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 09:10 PM

21. He won't be re-elected

Dems in West Virginia are about to be extinct. It will be like trying to capture a senate seat in Idaho or Wyoming -- no chance.

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