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Related: About this forumHow the DHS Stalemate Ends: In Total Defeat for the GOP
By Josh VoorheesCongress returned to work this week in the same position it did last week: facing a Friday deadline to extend funding for the Department of Homeland Security or watch as the federal agency partially shuts down. But while this week is shaping up to be a repeat of the same intraparty GOP showdown, there are a number of telling signs that this round is likely to have a more conclusive endingone that will come in the form of the long-term funding bill that President Obama and his congressional allies have been demanding for weeks
First, a quick reminder of how we got here: Last Friday, House Speaker John Boehner attempted to avoid the looming partial shutdown of DHS with a three-week funding bill that would have simply ensured that Congress found itself right back in the middle of this same immigration fight three weeks down the road. Boehners bid, however, unexpectedly and embarrassingly failed when he couldnt wrangle the support of enough of his partys rank-and-file, a solid chunk of whom are refusing to fund the department unless President Obama abandons his high-profile immigration reforms. Democrats, who have demanded a long-term deal without strings, were in no mood to help Boehner, and the measure failed 203224. Then, with the midnight funding deadline fast approaching, Boehner pushed through a one-week funding bill, avoiding the shutdown but prolonging the showdown.
But heres why this weeks drama may not end with a similar cliffhanger: Boehner wouldnt have been able to pass the one-week bill without the help of Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. All but 12 Democrats voted against the original three-week bill; hours later, all but five voted for the one-week bill. Without those Democratic votes, the one-week bill meets the same fate as the three-week one. Why the reversal, then? What did Democrats have to gain?
The most obvious answer is that Boehner promised Pelosi what Democrats have wanted all along: a no-strings funding bill that keeps the DHS funded through the end of the fiscal year. While Boehners office is denying any such assurances were made, Democrats are treating it like an open secret. Your vote tonight will assure that we will vote for full funding next week, Pelosi told her caucus in a letter shortly before Fridays roll call on the one-week measure. Asked about a deal on Monday, Rep. Steny Hoyer, the No. 2 Democrat in the House, dodged the question with a rhetorical one of his own: Why do you think that Democrats voted for a one-week [bill]?
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How the DHS Stalemate Ends: In Total Defeat for the GOP (Original Post)
DonViejo
Mar 2015
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Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)1. Secret negotiations over a domestic funding bill, par for the course..over foreign affairs on a nuclear deal...not?
Can we have SOME logic from the GOP, not Spock-level logic, maybe, but at least at Tribble-level?
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)2. The GOP hate government and so the GOP is bad at governing
Midnight Writer
(21,751 posts)3. Legislative defeat: Yes. Political defeat? No.
It's a matter of intensity. The kamikaze approach to politics fires up the conservative base and discourages their opponents. Most votes are cast on emotion, not logic. For prove, look at the last election, on the heels of the least effective Congress in memory. The red meat conservatives turned out to vote, and the folks most threatened by their actions (and inactions) sat it out.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,407 posts)4. Wish we could rid of this odious "Hastert rule"
It is making the House of Representatives severely dysfunctional (and much less democratic)