2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHere's how we should be thinking about 2016.
Instead of an ongoing chorus of "OMG! Hillary, yes, yes, yes!" and its counterchorus, "OMG! Hillary, no, no, no!" and the various verses in between, we should be thinking carefully of what we want as a party, and for the country, going forward.
We should be assessing social programs, foreign commitments, tax policy, infrastructure needs, research funding, and a host of other things, and asking ourselves, "What do we really want here?" And then we should be looking at potential candidates, questioning them, and figuring out which ones are most likely to do what we want and need in these areas. And this should be with a firm understanding in place that no one candidate will ever be perfect.
The best-case scenario is a competitive primary season in which all of these items get discussed and all the candidates make thoughtful cases for their particular positions of all these areas. In the end, in this best-case scenario, we'd end up with a strong candidate who wins the general election.
Alas, it's never quite like this. People fixate early on for and against various candidates, and the candidates themselves rarely give a coherent explanation of how they see these issues, how they would try to fix things or govern once in office.
Here's another hugely important thing that no one here seems to be thinking about: it is very common after 8 years of one President, for the country as a whole to want to see a President from the other party. I've also seen it at the level of Governor. So what's to say that overall Democratic President Fatigue might simply lead to the Republican being elected, no matter who the nominees are?
If the general election comes down to Bush v Clinton, my guess is that the ultimate outcome will depend more on which family is the more despised of the two overall, not the specific merits of the individual candidates.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)so what is happening at DU is something outside of that
Some of us see exactly what is happening as we recognize phrases, talking points if you will.
Democrats argue and debate over who the nominee should be far more than the republicans do, usually, because democrats think for themselves, republicans rarely do
however, once a nominee is chosen, no matter who it is, democrats support that nominee for reasons i should not have to explain
Yes, let's discuss who would be better at one issue vs another and support that person in the primaries, and then ONCE the candidate is chosen, we ALL get behind that person for reasons I should NOT have to explain
If I have to explain why a Hillary WH is preferable to a Walker WH and repub senate and house, then I am on the wrong forum