2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThings have become so frightening..
that if we lose the W.H. in 2016 any hope of getting ourselves out of our right wing nightmare will be absolutely squashed..
Not a big fan of Hillary,but right now the polls are showing that she can handily win the presidency over any of the rep. idiots now expected to run. We shouldnt be messing around with this election..
However the first thing Ms. Clinton must do, is publicly admit how she was wrong about the Iraq war..With this right wing wet dream (war with Iraq) a big part of anti-Hillary strategy will be reminding everyone that she voted for the war..
I really feel that if elected Hillary will surprise a lot of people around here in a good way..
No this not contrived .....I would rather see Warren, Sanders, etc. as our nominee, but this is not the time to be dreamers..
AZ Mike
(468 posts)I'm barely lukewarm on Hillary at best, but she has already done that.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)AZ Mike
(468 posts)It's a false choice.
I would rather Sanders, Warren, O'Malley, or Gore be the nominee before Clinton. That does not also mean that I support your boogeyman over Clinton.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Ditto to you on your grautious name calling.
Made me laugh!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)personally bring about Armageddon in order to usher in the second coming.
still_one
(92,061 posts)nominee is, nothing can be taken for granted. It will actually be an uphill battle, in spite of going against batshit crazy republicans.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Think she eventually must emphasize this down line..
still_one
(92,061 posts)Splinter Cell
(703 posts)She's only sorry about the Iraq vote because it hurts her politically. If the war had gone smoother and was more popular, she would be singing another tune.
Hillary is a fair-weather sailor.
Sullie11
(1 post)Look at the GOP hopefuls and tell me America ain't doomed if one gets elected...
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)WRONG!
* Over thanks to Obama and SOS Clinton and the Obama Admin.
If McCain had won by now America would STILL be in that war and not a bit of Federal or State revenue left for regular Americans.
still_one
(92,061 posts)msongs
(67,361 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)created ISIS
kairos12
(12,843 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Hillary has received a ton of crap (some deserved). and has probably seen a lot in the last 14 yrs which hopefully has opened her eyes.. ..
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)flying-skeleton
(696 posts)Hillary should NOT admit that she was wrong. Doing so would open the Rethuglican floodgates to brand her as a flip flopper even though the Rethuglicanss themselves are in the same boat. It is easier to talk about the Rethuglican machine that drowned this country in a depression (as a result of the war).
Hey ... last time around, we had a choice between Hillary & Obama and we went with Obama thinking that he would bring a fresh focus to work with the Rethuglicans to get things done. We all underestimated the resilience of the Rethuglican machine in refusing to work with a BLACK man in the WHITE house and their hatred for the middle class in favor of the billionaires.
By all accounts and measures, President Obama has been a resounding success except in dealing with the Rethuglicans. Well, we know that Clinton KNOWS how to deal with the Rethuglicans. Besides, all we need her to do is stay the course President Obama has laid out and concentrate on drumming the rethuglicans, their overlords and minions back to the stone age !!
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)She already has admitted to it.Her Book...Im glad..