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Walker projected winner per Rachel Maddow. SHITTTTTTTTTT!!! (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2012 OP
Yeah. I just saw that. calimary Jun 2012 #1
fuck! rurallib Jun 2012 #2
AUGH! sakabatou Jun 2012 #3
oh my fuckin gawd, NO!!! Little Star Jun 2012 #4
Bull shit you mean. Why are we still voting in black box machines? rainy Jun 2012 #5
I really don't believe it. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #6
only 22% in riverwalker Jun 2012 #7
It's done all the time; per Ed, 'proverbial fight isn't over yet'. :( nt babylonsister Jun 2012 #9
So disgusting. So disheartening. So EVIL. nt valerief Jun 2012 #8
So predictable win_in_06 Jun 2012 #11
How is this possible if the votes haven't been counted and there are people in line? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #10
Exit polls... Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #13
Yup. nt babylonsister Jun 2012 #15
Nope - early returns compared to prior years. FBaggins Jun 2012 #16
OK, and thanks. nt babylonsister Jun 2012 #17
That too... Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #18
But we aren't underperforming ShadowLiberal Jun 2012 #19
I'm sorry... but we are. FBaggins Jun 2012 #21
Ordinarily I would agree with you, but exit polls have not been consistent, and in fact were Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #22
The problem is, it appears exit polls overestimated Barrett's support. Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #23
Right. Hence, they were way off and can't be trusted, which makes me afraid of the Obama numbers. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #24
It is NOT over! BamaFanLee Jun 2012 #12
only 22%-25% is in and Maddow is already calling for it! The Media needs to stop making these lookingfortruth Jun 2012 #14
I'm just sick..... a kennedy Jun 2012 #20
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
13. Exit polls...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:57 PM
Jun 2012

Unless there are 20,000-50,000 people still in line waiting to vote, which is unlikely, exit polls pretty much point to a Walker victory. NBC wouldn't call this unless they knew the vote total would be impossible to overcome.

FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
16. Nope - early returns compared to prior years.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:07 PM
Jun 2012

If we're underperforming 2010 in most counties and 2010 was a 5-point loss... it becomes an easy call.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
18. That too...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:19 PM
Jun 2012

It's a mix, really. Exit poll data, historical trends, voting turnout and probably raw vote total that goes into making a call.

ShadowLiberal

(2,237 posts)
19. But we aren't underperforming
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:23 PM
Jun 2012

Look at the chart at Daily Kos constantly being updated of current votes counted and how well we/Walker did in 2010, we're generally up from last time in votes overall.

Also, I'm sorry but unless the votes counted get a LOT closer these results just scream fraud to me (with Walker up almost 20 points with over 30% of the vote counted, that sounds as believable as Ahmadinejad's 75 to 25 victory in Iran's last election).

FBaggins

(26,714 posts)
21. I'm sorry... but we are.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:55 PM
Jun 2012

Here's a much clearer link. In this graph, we are outperforming in any county shown below and to the left of the diagonal line. I estimate that about 80% of the counties are on or above the line.

We need the average dot to be 5% below that line and right now there isn't a single county where we're doing that well. The best is about 2% better.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/wisconsin-recall-results#graph

Walker up almost 20 points with over 30% of the vote counted, that sounds as believable as Ahmadinejad's 75 to 25 victory in Iran's last election).

You have to understand that this is one of those states where we win big in a handful of counties and the Republicans win med-large in scores of much smaller counties - and most of their precincts report earlier. With Milwaukee still out, it's an artificially large margin right now.

I'd say it's a very low double-digit loss... but nothing like 20%.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
22. Ordinarily I would agree with you, but exit polls have not been consistent, and in fact were
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:59 PM
Jun 2012

apparently way off tonight.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
24. Right. Hence, they were way off and can't be trusted, which makes me afraid of the Obama numbers.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:11 PM
Jun 2012

If the exit polls show that Obama beats R-Money by 14%, how can we be certain that that number is correct if exit polls have been off?

 

lookingfortruth

(263 posts)
14. only 22%-25% is in and Maddow is already calling for it! The Media needs to stop making these
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:00 PM
Jun 2012

calls before the other networks. This is going to be Flordia 2000 all over.

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