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Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:22 PM

Should a candidate running for POTUS at least have a Bachelor Degree?

Not trying to be elitist. Even my job requires one.
Discuss.

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Reply Should a candidate running for POTUS at least have a Bachelor Degree? (Original post)
onecaliberal Jul 2015 OP
El Supremo Jul 2015 #1
onecaliberal Jul 2015 #5
madamvlb Jul 2015 #2
Agschmid Jul 2015 #3
we can do it Jul 2015 #4
jberryhill Jul 2015 #6
onecaliberal Jul 2015 #7
jberryhill Jul 2015 #9
onecaliberal Jul 2015 #15
cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #29
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #8
onecaliberal Jul 2015 #11
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #18
Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #24
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #10
onecaliberal Jul 2015 #13
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #16
onecaliberal Jul 2015 #20
Name removed Jul 2015 #12
Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #21
Sancho Jul 2015 #14
tritsofme Jul 2015 #25
murielm99 Jul 2015 #37
dem in texas Jul 2015 #17
Journeyman Jul 2015 #19
onecaliberal Jul 2015 #22
elleng Jul 2015 #23
Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #26
Lil Missy Jul 2015 #27
HassleCat Jul 2015 #28
onecaliberal Jul 2015 #31
pugetres Jul 2015 #30
MADem Jul 2015 #32
A Little Weird Jul 2015 #33
doc03 Jul 2015 #34
SamKnause Jul 2015 #35
onecaliberal Jul 2015 #36
BillZBubb Jul 2015 #38
840high Jul 2015 #39
restorefreedom Jul 2015 #40
HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #41
kenfrequed Jul 2015 #42
Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #43

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:26 PM

1. It's a big plus but...

remember that Truman didn't have one.

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Response to El Supremo (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:27 PM

5. The world is very different now.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:26 PM

2. YES

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:26 PM

3. I'd prefer it.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:27 PM

4. Yes.

It's the most complicated job in the world. Absolutely yes.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:28 PM

6. It's up to whomever wants to vote for the candidate

 


A candidate running for POTUS needs to be:

1. At least 35 years old as of January 20th the next year;

2. Born a citizen; and

3. 14 years a resident.

That's it. Nail those three and you are qualified.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:28 PM

7. I know what the requirements are, that was not my question.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:30 PM

9. Anything else is just an opinion

 


I'm sure there are people who would prefer the candidate not have one.

The majority of people in this country don't have one. Of those people, I'll bet a lot of them are pretty sure that whomever screwed them over the most in life had a college degree.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:38 PM

15. Hate and greed are taught at home for the most part, not college.

I was obviously asking for opinion.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:30 PM

29. Let me give you my perspective...

 

What's the percentage of people working in bureaucratic government positions (elected and/or appointed) who have college degrees at the moment? I'd bet it's in the high nineties.

Is there any place in the world that someone went to and said "I think we'll have no government here..."? Nnnnope. Everywhere humans have gone and colonized there was shortly thereafter a means devised for humans controlling other humans.

For thousands of years, everywhere there's been enough people to have a majority, humans have been controlling other humans in one way or another. I'd say for the last several hundred, most of those humans had college degrees. Most like high ninety percentage points most.

The world is a very fucked up place in spite of humans controlling humans by means of "government" for oh, a thousand years?

Nope. A college degree doesn't seem to help one way or the other.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:29 PM

8. Not according to the Consntitution.

As a voter, I want a better educated candidate. The time when a candidate can be self educated, like a Lincoln, is long past.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:32 PM

11. That's why I ask.

The world is much different, far more complicated. There are those of us doing jobs with FAR less complication where that degree is required. The founders couldn't imagine the world we currently live in.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:40 PM

18. That is why you do not do the job alone

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:11 PM

24. Amending the Constitution is difficult, and the anger against college educated elites

is very pronounced, especially on the right.

Thee is simply nothing we can do about this except insist that individual voters hold candidates to a higher standard.

Hell, Bush was a C student who many believed was allowed to pass because his family donated money to the University. The truth, of course, is even a College education doesn't mean much.

Bush Graduated from Harvard but was a legacy student whose family have buildings named after them.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:30 PM

10. No

 

Life experience can be more than that college education.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:33 PM

13. I do not agree.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:39 PM

16. That's fine

 

We do not have to agree. Just respect each other's positions. Have a great night!

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:42 PM

20. Agreed. I wanted to see how everyone felt about it.

Thank you for the reply. Have a fantastic night!

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Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:42 PM

21. Yes, just look at Bush part 2

 

He had one of them there high falutin diploma things.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:36 PM

14. Maybe not...but likely all future candidates would have attended college.

There are certainly people who could run reasonably without a degree - for example Bill Gates. I could see someone with experience and judgement that was good enough to run, and they may have obtained an "education" without a formal college degree.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:20 PM

25. This topic is likely inspired by Scott Walker, who never finished college.

As to the OP, I very much doubt I would personally support a presidential candidate that was not a college graduate, but I don't think attacking Walker on this point will be very effective, there is plenty more to criticize him on.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #25)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:40 PM

37. We don't know why he dropped out so close to graduation.

Is this a forbidden area of discussion? Someone should do some investigating.

Was he in trouble over something? Was he given a chance to withdraw instead of facing expulsion? Were his grades so poor that he had no hope of graduating?

If everyone else's life is going under the microscope, that should happen to his life, too.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:40 PM

17. Look at Bill Gates

He dropped out of college in his freshman year.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:41 PM

19. George W had one. Didn't seem to do him much good . . .

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:42 PM

22. W bought his, just saying.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 09:58 PM

23. JD and executive experience as mayor and governor.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:25 PM

26. nope.

 

The requirements as they currently exist are sufficient.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:25 PM

27. yes

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:30 PM

28. It disqualifies Walker

 

Not the lack of a degree, but the fact he went to college four years and didn't finish. He was a C+ student, doesn't seem to remember much about his course work, and was just marking time until he figured out right wing politics would be a perfect fit for his carnival barker personality. People who are all ambition and no substance bother me, and Walker is a prime example.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #28)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:34 PM

31. People like him who want to be POTUS

Truly clueless people in my opinion should not be considered. Look at what happened with W. Not so bright, almost brought don the entire world economy.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:31 PM

30. Yes. There is no substitute for a good education.

 

Life experience is something that everyone in the world obtains regardless of their education level. But, I value a person who makes plans and goals and works hard to achieve them. Committing yourself to a college program is a good thing. And, yes, I do know that not everyone ends up working in an area that is reflected in their college degree. I still can appreciate the hard work that went into getting a degree.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:34 PM

32. Yes. A university degree proves that a person has some capacity for complex thought.

Granted, there exist people without degrees who also have this capacity, but the sheepskin--unless you're a pro athlete who has been given passing grades in an Underwater Basket Weaving major--is a method of proving this.

It means you can at least THINK a wee bit.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:34 PM

33. No

It would not be a deciding factor for me but I would consider it a negative if a candidate did not have a degree. But still I don't think the requirements should change.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 10:41 PM

34. No I am 67 years old and some of the dumbest people I have

ever known have a Bachelor Degree or more. My dad was a electrician and only a high school graduate but he had Electrical Engineers
calling him for help with electrical problems. One way we could get even with some of those overeducated eggheads in the mill was do exactly what they told us to do. Some things you can't learn in a classroom.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:04 PM

35. No.

I prefer a candidate that has common sense.

Many college educated people have zero common sense.

I don't want a candidate that got his/her college degree

from a 'Christian college'.

If college was free, I may have a different opinion.

As it is, the rich can have mommy and daddy buy

their diplomas for them.

Bush had a college education.

Do you seriously think he earned his diploma ???

He could not even speak in coherent sentences.

He made up words because he did not know the real

words to express his opinion.

A piece of paper does not make one intelligent.

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Response to SamKnause (Reply #35)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:30 PM

36. I stated my opinion about w's degree up thread.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:56 PM

38. Having a degree can be a plus, but not having one isn't a disqualifier.

College is wasted on a lot of people, so having a degree doesn't always indicate any superior ability.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2015, 11:57 PM

39. Think of Truman. Nope.

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Jul 14, 2015, 12:19 AM

40. i would like it,

but I don't see any pathway by which we could make it a requirement. Besides, there was W.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:14 AM

41. Not having a degree worked out ok for John Majors...

because he mastered aping Thatcherite ideology.

Scott Walker will do ok among republicans. Walker has mastered the aping of Koch's extreme economic libertarianism and his moral majority approach conforms to the expectations of the mega-church rather than the revival tent.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:18 AM

42. No.

This is a democracy. The people can elect any damned fool they like. Should voters develop their own criteria about who they will vote for and demand better thinkers and more education? Probably.

Personally, I think policy should be the end-all be-all in terms of how you choose who you vote for. There are many people with advanced degrees in business or law degrees that are complete sociopaths and should not be elected as dog catchers.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Jul 14, 2015, 08:19 AM

43. George W. Bush has a Masters Degree and

Lincoln didn't have a formal education. What does that tell you about higher education?

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