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global1

(25,226 posts)
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:37 PM Jun 2012

Who Thinks That President Obama Just Picked Rmoney's Running Mate?.......

This immigration decision on the part of President Obama may have just forced Rmoney into having to pick Marco Rubio as his running mate. Did anyone else here have that thought?

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Who Thinks That President Obama Just Picked Rmoney's Running Mate?....... (Original Post) global1 Jun 2012 OP
Possibly Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #1
Nice point rufus dog Jun 2012 #2
Rubio was always going to be the running mate. nt onehandle Jun 2012 #3
There's a lot of ?'s about his ethics, so I'm not sure WI_DEM Jun 2012 #4
Here is some info to back up the probable selection of Rubio liberal N proud Jun 2012 #5
He's also a latino Sarah Palin WI_DEM Jun 2012 #6
Is he as stupid? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2012 #10
No, he's not as industrial-strength, museum-quality stupid. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #39
Sheldon Adelson wants Eric Kantor to filfill a Isralie promise. Wellstone ruled Jun 2012 #7
Mafioso? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #8
I believe just the opposite ... he has cut Rubio out of consideration Bok_Tukalo Jun 2012 #9
I understand your point of view but no grantcart Jun 2012 #11
Seconded Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #12
Thirded FSogol Jun 2012 #19
Not Ms. Rice, much more likely some boring figure like McDonnell flamingdem Jun 2012 #24
"Bob"s for Blahs" beac Jun 2012 #29
I agree as well Carla in Sequim Jun 2012 #13
Congrats on 100 posts! bigwillq Jun 2012 #18
Thanks for that... Carla in Sequim Jun 2012 #31
Being able to find France and Cuba on a map MH1 Jun 2012 #33
Well, if he DID pick him Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2012 #14
And their wives could wear t-shirts saying beac Jun 2012 #28
VERY funny! annabanana Jun 2012 #32
Thats duzy worthy... HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #40
Rubio has said too many times, too many ways demwing Jun 2012 #15
I thought Rubio was the obvious choice back a few months ago.. DCBob Jun 2012 #16
All of a sudden Hispanics are in demand! flamingdem Jun 2012 #22
Yep.. its a numbers game now. DCBob Jun 2012 #27
I still think it is Condoleezza Rice and was decided 6-8 weeks ago. stevenleser Jun 2012 #17
She's hideous, that should make repukes stay home! flamingdem Jun 2012 #23
I'll say this for Condi, I can't think of anyone playing the loyal soldier bit better. stevenleser Jun 2012 #25
She's the model of authoritarian traits flamingdem Jun 2012 #30
Yep, and the dominatrix boots woo me with science Jun 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author flamingdem Jun 2012 #45
What the hell is wrong with you? woo me with science Jun 2012 #46
Sorry I have a friend who makes flamingdem Jun 2012 #47
Okay. woo me with science Jun 2012 #48
No. She was part of the Bush administration. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #42
Rubio wants no part of this train wreck.... Wounded Bear Jun 2012 #20
Yes, indeed. cr8tvlde Jun 2012 #34
I suspect you're right. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #41
I think Rubio wants to run for president in 2016 thus, flamingdem Jun 2012 #21
That could be the main factor here. DCBob Jun 2012 #26
Yes. The Mark of Romney...question is, who will? n/t cr8tvlde Jun 2012 #35
If he picks Rubio, he loses the Birthers GarroHorus Jun 2012 #37
I agree and it will not work! hrmjustin Jun 2012 #38
I certainly hope so. IMO Rubio would hurt Romney's chances, not help him. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #43
Betcha a pizza and a pitcher of beer you're wrong cbrer Jun 2012 #44

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
1. Possibly
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jun 2012

The Repubs love their "window dressing". BTW whatever happened to Rubio's scaled back "Dream Act" that he was going to use to box Democrats in with?

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
5. Here is some info to back up the probable selection of Rubio
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 02:53 PM
Jun 2012
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/15/12241093-rubios-the-overwhelming-vp-fav-at-conservative-conference?lite

Rubio's the overwhelming VP fav at conservative conferenceBy From NBC's Katherine Faulders and Steven Lovern
WASHINGTON, DC -- Who should be Mitt Romney's vice-presidential pick?

The answer to that question, according to interviews with several attendees here at the Faith & Freedom Coalition, is pretty clear: Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (R), who addressed this crowd on Thursday.

Jeff Biggs from North Carolina:
"Rubio. We heard him speak yesterday and he did an outstanding job. It seems like he speaks from the heart."

Barbara Samuells from Long Island, New York:
"I think there are many good choices out there. My husband and I have this discussion every now and then, and I very much like Marco Rubio, but I think just lately my favorite and who I think could bring the most to us is Paul Ryan."

Lisa Roper from Texas:
"Marco Rubio. He is pure passion and he brings America all in one voice. Just being an immigrant and his family, and I think that's something that America can relate to and it's a serious issue on the table for Republicans, so I am certainly for him."

Jim McCarroll from Blairsville, Georgia:
"Marco Rubio. I just have a feeling he's the right guy."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/15/12241093-rubios-the-overwhelming-vp-fav-at-conservative-conference?lite

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
10. Is he as stupid?
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 03:44 PM
Jun 2012

By that I mean, industrial-strength, weapons-grade, museum-quality stupid. If he's that stupid he might have a chance.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
39. No, he's not as industrial-strength, museum-quality stupid.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jun 2012

He can actually speak coherently, and its actually possible he's read some books. He does have a Palinesque history of grifting and financial impropriety that the Dems can attack him with. And while he is popular with older and conservative Cuban-Americans, that doesn't automatically translate into popularity with other Latinos.

Bok_Tukalo

(4,322 posts)
9. I believe just the opposite ... he has cut Rubio out of consideration
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 03:41 PM
Jun 2012

The president has just picked a fight with the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party. This is about as hot button an issue for them as any and they don't give a rat's ass about political fallout; they pride themselves on their refusal to compromise their principles.

This move highlights Senator Rubio's Dream Act Lite and will bring the inevitable comparisons. I can think of few things that turns the Tea Party Republicans off a candidate more than President Obama agreeing with that candidate.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
11. I understand your point of view but no
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 04:36 PM
Jun 2012

Mark Rubio as a Cuban has virtually no pull with non Cuban Hispanics.

Hispanics resent the fact that Cubans get a pass on immigration issues and the fact that a Cuban supports tough immigration procedures is like rubbing salt in the wound.

If they had a non Cuban hispanic maybe but not a Cuban.

beac

(9,992 posts)
29. "Bob"s for Blahs"
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 04:33 PM
Jun 2012





*McDonnell's gubernatorial slogan was "Bob's for Jobs!" but mostly Bob's been for auditioning for VP and vote-buying with state-employee "savings" bonuses.

Carla in Sequim

(228 posts)
13. I agree as well
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 06:56 PM
Jun 2012

Rubio didn't think the President went far enough.

Also, there isn't any foreign policy experience between them, unless you want to know where France and Cuba are on a map.

Carla in Sequim

(228 posts)
31. Thanks for that...
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 01:29 AM
Jun 2012

Actually, I used to be a part of the original DU with the '1000+ and a star' crowd. I had to leave for a while and we moved so I decided to start over.

I don't post as much as I did before because so many threads go off topic but I enjoy the site and have my fingers crossed for President Obama's re-election.

MH1

(17,573 posts)
33. Being able to find France and Cuba on a map
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 09:59 AM
Jun 2012

would be a big improvement over the GOP's last veep pick.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
15. Rubio has said too many times, too many ways
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:59 PM
Jun 2012

his will not be VP - doesn't want it now, maybe not ever

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
16. I thought Rubio was the obvious choice back a few months ago..
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 06:59 AM
Jun 2012

but now Im not so sure. I think what they really want is an attractive eloquent Hispanic woman who can grab the spotlight much like Palin but without the dumb part.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
22. All of a sudden Hispanics are in demand!
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:42 PM
Jun 2012

They'll call the shots in this country in the not so distant future. Luckily the GOP didn't think much about that..

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
27. Yep.. its a numbers game now.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 03:07 PM
Jun 2012

Hispanics are the fastest growing demographic and that trend is likely to continue for quite some time.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
17. I still think it is Condoleezza Rice and was decided 6-8 weeks ago.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 09:01 AM
Jun 2012

That is their attempt to insulate themselves from the War Against Women AND Racism charges.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
25. I'll say this for Condi, I can't think of anyone playing the loyal soldier bit better.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jun 2012

She takes orders well, never complains, never leaks and never badmouths those who are higher up in the food chain.

For a Republican, it doesnt get any better than having a subordinate than that.

Response to woo me with science (Reply #36)

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
47. Sorry I have a friend who makes
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jun 2012

comments that are offensive related and for a minute I thought that was your humor

I deleted it

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
42. No. She was part of the Bush administration.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:50 PM
Jun 2012

The revulsion that causes in most people trumps her race and gender.

Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)
20. Rubio wants no part of this train wreck....
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jun 2012

He knows that being the VP on a losing ticket is pretty much political suicide. If he wants to sit in the big chair some day, he would be best advised to wait til '16 or later.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
34. Yes, indeed.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jun 2012

I believe he's smart enough to know what he doesn't have ... experience and party organization ... and what Mitt doesn't have ...nothing much except for money.

Hispanics aren't a voting bloc...they run the entire political spectrum. In 2016 Rubio will be more than just the Hispanic Token he's taken for now. And, he'll have a national name, thanks to this election season.

But as to who will sacrifice themselves for a bruising campaign with a sure loser? Not likely Rice...she's not down and dirty enough for this political climate and it would tarnish her image. His huge ego and patriarchal religious fundamentalism/racism is going to shorten up his "available list".

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
41. I suspect you're right.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:47 PM
Jun 2012

Rubio is a prodigy of Jeb's. He may well be advised by Jeb to sit out this trainwreck and wait for '16.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
21. I think Rubio wants to run for president in 2016 thus,
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jun 2012

he won't risk a loss now.

On the other hand he would help the ticket, so if he believes they could win...

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
26. That could be the main factor here.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 03:05 PM
Jun 2012

He would risk having the "mark of Romney" on his forehead forever.

 

GarroHorus

(1,055 posts)
37. If he picks Rubio, he loses the Birthers
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:31 PM
Jun 2012

He got the stink of Birther on him wiht his embracing of Donald Trump and it won't get off him now, even with the Rubio pick.

But the Birthers have decided that your parents need to be citizens at the time of your birth for you to be a natural born citizen so they've pre-emptively decided Rubio is ineligible.

Catch-22 for Romney.

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
43. I certainly hope so. IMO Rubio would hurt Romney's chances, not help him.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:12 PM
Jun 2012

Hispanics would likely see it as cynical, particularly in light of the fact that Rubio basically approves of Obama's new policy. Romney just might lose Florida anyway and Rubio would be unlikely to help Romney with Hispanics or anti immigration people in places like NM, CO, NV and Arizona.

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
44. Betcha a pizza and a pitcher of beer you're wrong
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:34 PM
Jun 2012

Not the cheap stuff either!

Mitt Romney isn't far sighted enough to use Rubio even in that limited strategic sense. And his need to pander will expand as he falls further into Barak Obamas traps. So he'll end up doing a more populist choice. Wouldn't even be surprised if half of his polling said Ron Paul. Not that he'll take that road either. I suspect he'll wait late, and choose from a popular poll.

But you're on!

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