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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:49 AM Jul 2015

FYI - "Hillary Dodges Questions on Climate, Keystone and Fracking in Facebook Q&A"

There's a reason she won't SAY NO to fossil fuel company campaign donations...

“What will your administration do differently [than] those prior? We are already past the tipping point and most of us here would agree we now need to make plans and discontinue the bicker and inaction in Congress over climate change.”


“Are you for or against fracking?”


“What about the Keystone [XL] pipeline?”


(IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE)

Hillary Dodges Questions on Climate, Keystone and Fracking in Facebook Q&A
7/21/15

....Thousands of potential voters took part in the chat, during which Clinton pledged to reduce the debt load for students, prosecute bad actors on Wall Street, expressed solidarity with Black Lives Matter and joked that she “never met a pantsuit [she] didn’t love.”

Clinton, however, did not respond to the environmental questions Facebook users raised and her campaign website offers little information on her environmental positions, with the exception of proclaiming that “America must lead the world in developing and deploying new clean energy sources that will power our economy, protect the health of our families and address the global threat of climate change.”

Yet, environmentalists are raising concerns over Clinton’s opaque environmental stance. While serving as Secretary of State in 2010, Clinton stated she was “inclined” to support the Keystone XL pipeline and in June her campaign hired former TransCanada lobbyist, Jeff Berman as a consultant.

Karthik Ganapathy, a spokesperson for 350.org, told Business Insider last week that Clinton’s lack of a clear stance on the Keystone XL was indefensible. “It’s even more indefensible when [Republican presidential candidates] Ted Cruz and Rand Paul have taken a position on it when you, as the Democratic front-runner, have not,” he said....

http://ecowatch.com/2015/07/21/hillary-facebook-q-and-a/


This really shouldn't be a surprise given the following fact~

Hillary Clinton's Biggest Campaign Bundlers Are Fossil Fuel Lobbyists
Clinton's top campaign financiers are linked to Big Oil, natural gas and the Keystone pipeline.
7/17/15

WASHINGTON -- Nearly all of the lobbyists bundling contributions for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign have at one time or another worked for the fossil fuel industry. A list of 40 registered lobbyists that the Clinton camp disclosed to the Federal Election Commission on Wednesday revealed a number of Democratic Party lobbyists who have worked against regulations to curb climate change, advocated for offshore drilling, or sought government approval for natural gas exports.

Clinton, the former secretary of state, has called climate change the most “consequential, urgent, sweeping collection of challenges we face as a nation and a world” and says it would be a major focus of her administration if she wins the White House. But having so many supporters who have sold their services to fossil fuel companies may complicate her emphasis on pro-environment policies.

Scott Parven and Brian Pomper, lobbyists at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, have been registered to lobby for the Southern California-based oil giant Chevron since 2006, with contracts totaling more than $3 million. The two bundled Clinton contributions of $24,700 and $29,700, respectively. They have helped Chevron over the years resist efforts to eliminate oil and gas tax breaks and to impose regulations to reduce carbon emissions.

The two Clinton bundlers also were part of a much-criticized campaign by Chevron to manipulate Congress into inserting language into the Andean Trade Preferences Act that would require Ecuador to dismiss a longstanding lawsuit against the company for polluting the Amazon jungle. Democratic lawmakers pushed back against the campaign and the lawsuit is continuing....

Read much, MUCH more here~
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel_55a8335ee4b04740a3df86c5



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FYI - "Hillary Dodges Questions on Climate, Keystone and Fracking in Facebook Q&A" (Original Post) RiverLover Jul 2015 OP
That's new Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #1
There should be absolutely no surprises & that's all I have to say. nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #2
ikr...what else is new? InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #18
Did any of the participants call her on her ignores? That is so Autumn Jul 2015 #3
At least she's not lying. RiverLover Jul 2015 #11
Well it is better to keep silent than to lie. You hafta give Hillary that. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #19
Is Hillary the only candidate dodging answering questions? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #4
No, but she appears to be the only Democrat doing so. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2015 #7
She may be the only Democrat but not the only candidate dodging the questions. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #14
Now, did I really have to write Democratic candidate for you to understand it? n/t A Simple Game Jul 2015 #24
Replying to your post of the only Democrat candidate, since Bernie is an Independent who skirts Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #44
Then you aren't a real Democrat. London Lover Man Jul 2015 #53
Good answer you did better than I could have, thanks. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2015 #55
So you're saying she is just as good as the Republicans? LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #43
I don't need my post re-written to something I did not say. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #45
You said "she may be the only Democrat" [dodging questions] "but not the only candidate". LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #47
See post #44 Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #49
Look at the response. n/t London Lover Man Jul 2015 #56
At least you're admitting that she's dodging them. bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #12
Are you going to admit Bernie is dodging the questions? If so, this would be a good start. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #15
I'd love to see it happen JackInGreen Jul 2015 #17
I honestly have never heard Bernie dodge a question. And maybe there's an example you can cite. But, even you hafta admit, Hillary is an expert at it. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #20
Recently he clumsily dodged questions in a softball NPR interview. Orrex Jul 2015 #21
I don't really care if my candidate doesn't want to talk about softball. HappyPlace Jul 2015 #31
You're a bad person. Orrex Jul 2015 #34
Please provide one example and I'll be happy to. bobbobbins01 Jul 2015 #37
"Dodging" is a word coined before Facebook existed, if I am not mistaken. It has no meaning as used. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #25
She's definitely a dodgy lady. Looks more like she's 'negotiating' to become the next President. jalan48 Jul 2015 #30
On this issue, yes. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #54
Oh God, is she a fan of Fracking? gollygee Jul 2015 #5
Not only is she a fan... RiverLover Jul 2015 #9
And someone questioned to me earlier London Lover Man Jul 2015 #57
How much more specific do you want her to be? We can just slap this language into a bill and pass GoneFishin Jul 2015 #6
If only Jimmy Carter had gotten a second term. What would the world look like today? n/t A Simple Game Jul 2015 #8
That's your typical BS non-answer, up there with "Good jobs at good wages" Android3.14 Jul 2015 #28
Bernie dodges questions as well: JaneyVee Jul 2015 #35
Not like Hillary Dodge-'em Clinton Android3.14 Jul 2015 #40
"Bully people"?! BWAHAHA! JaneyVee Jul 2015 #41
Yes, bully is what I said and bully is what I meant Android3.14 Jul 2015 #42
LOL. Wrong again... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #48
What the frack does that have to do with protecting the environment? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #52
+1 RiverLover Jul 2015 #58
Hillary Dodge Clinton HoosierCowboy Jul 2015 #10
very disturbing Fast Walker 52 Jul 2015 #13
Seems like Hillary is going Beltway and mainstream political hack. marble falls Jul 2015 #16
Ugh. Can't believe any Liberal would support her. AzDar Jul 2015 #22
Too much media interaction and information from Clinton, or too little, please make up your minds. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #23
hunh? frylock Jul 2015 #33
LOL @ "Bad actors" on Wall St. jalan48 Jul 2015 #26
Leo DeCaprio? frylock Jul 2015 #32
Just a few bad apples. No systemic problem at all. She didn't see the 2008 collapse coming either. jalan48 Jul 2015 #36
Hillary Dodge-'em Clinton Android3.14 Jul 2015 #27
It has to be tough. Some liberals genuinely care about climate change. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #29
you do realize mopinko Jul 2015 #38
Well, at least she answered the Qs about pantsuits & karaoke! RiverLover Jul 2015 #39
I'm shocked, simply shocked! sonofspy777 Jul 2015 #46
That is why we need debates. People should not be brushed off like that sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #50
Transcanada lobbyist is one of her advisors. WDIM Jul 2015 #51
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
1. That's new
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 07:54 AM
Jul 2015

usually when she dodges questions they're about what the pro quo she got all that quid for, or the location of her husband, or the thinking behind giving away billions in cash and weapons to Middle Eastern groups of dubious provenance and objectives...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
44. Replying to your post of the only Democrat candidate, since Bernie is an Independent who skirts
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:17 PM
Jul 2015

Questions I thought I would clarify.

 

London Lover Man

(371 posts)
53. Then you aren't a real Democrat.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jul 2015

A real and true Democrat recognizes Bernie Sanders as a true and real Democrat, even if he isn't one - he still espouses Democratic values. Your refusal to believe that shows me that you aren't a real or true Democrat.

Only RW trolls would call Bernie independent to show that he's "fringe" - guess what? He's about as mainstream as you get - it's the Establishment that is on the fringe.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
47. You said "she may be the only Democrat" [dodging questions] "but not the only candidate".
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jul 2015

So you are defending her dodging questions by pointing out that Republicans do it too.

OK

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
20. I honestly have never heard Bernie dodge a question. And maybe there's an example you can cite. But, even you hafta admit, Hillary is an expert at it.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:22 AM
Jul 2015

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
21. Recently he clumsily dodged questions in a softball NPR interview.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:32 AM
Jul 2015

Naturally, his supporters here on DU insisted that he'd answered it (which he absolutely hadn't) or that it was an unfair "gotcha" interview (which it absolutely was not).

Sanders is not at all averse to dodging questions. It's just that he dodges them in a way that appeals to his supporters and makes it look like he's "taking no bullshit" and/or reframing the debate.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
31. I don't really care if my candidate doesn't want to talk about softball.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jul 2015

Sheesh, not everyone is a sports fan.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
37. Please provide one example and I'll be happy to.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:33 AM
Jul 2015

Don't get defensive, I'm on your side in this difficult time.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
25. "Dodging" is a word coined before Facebook existed, if I am not mistaken. It has no meaning as used.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:51 AM
Jul 2015

I agree with your sentiment.

How ludicrous to suggest because on one ocassion at one place on the
Internet because some questions were not answered - then obviously they were??

"Logic" is also a word coined before FB and always has meaning.

The whole OP is a field of Strawmen...everyone, come please take a punch, that is what they are constructed for.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
9. Not only is she a fan...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:49 AM
Jul 2015
How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking to the World
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

This is how she tries to make it less republicanish~

And here’s what she wrote in her new book, “Hard Choices”, on the topic:

“Methane leaks in the production and transportation of natural gas are particularly worrisome. So it’s crucial that we put in place smart regulations and enforce them, including not drilling when the risks are too high. If we approach this challenge responsibly…we can build a bridge to a clean energy future.”
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/three-times-clinton-has-repeated-herself-fracking


Riiiight.
 

London Lover Man

(371 posts)
57. And someone questioned to me earlier
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 06:48 PM
Jul 2015

Why I thought Clinton abused her position.

I thought about that OP when I defined it - she was not for the people, but for the corporations.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
6. How much more specific do you want her to be? We can just slap this language into a bill and pass
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 08:40 AM
Jul 2015

it :

“America must lead the world in developing and deploying new clean energy sources that will power our economy, protect the health of our families and address the global threat of climate change.”


 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
28. That's your typical BS non-answer, up there with "Good jobs at good wages"
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:06 AM
Jul 2015

As a reporter, I would on occasion joke with our local political veterans. I'd sidle up grinning to one I knew pretty well and and say, "So, you still support family values, plan to work for a stronger economy, and love America?"

And he would grin at me, knowing that I was in on the joke that those platitudes were just that.

Then then he would respond, "You can count on it."

Clinton is not so foolish as to acknowledge the zero sum that her words actually mean, but she knows.

She sold herself years ago.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
40. Not like Hillary Dodge-'em Clinton
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jul 2015

Sorry JaneyVee, but you lack credibility (reddit? really?), and you have bullied people too much with your robotic responses.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
41. "Bully people"?! BWAHAHA!
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jul 2015

1-Haven't had a post hidden. 2-"bully people" = provide facts. 3-If anyone gets bullied its Hillary supporters. That's why this place is a Bernie echo chamber, the rest left. 4-please provide links to my "bullying" or delete your bs comment. Talk about credibility.

Thanks in advance.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
42. Yes, bully is what I said and bully is what I meant
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jul 2015

We all saw that threatening little repetitive phrase with which you kept haranguing people, ominously reminding them to support Hillary after the primaries.

Oh yes. I know exactly what you were doing.

That sort of behavior does more to harm your candidate than help.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
48. LOL. Wrong again...
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 04:58 PM
Jul 2015

I said "just make sure you vote for the Dem nominee in 2016". Nothing about Hillary.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
52. What the frack does that have to do with protecting the environment?
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jul 2015

Care to defend your candidate on the issues in the op or are you just here to fling feces?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
23. Too much media interaction and information from Clinton, or too little, please make up your minds.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jul 2015

The every day, every-issue outrage about the First Lady(D) and Secretary of State(D) is ridiculous, repetitive and of no assistance to Bernie.

If this entire excercise of negative advertising is intended to move Clinton to the left, more power to you, but there are other ways.

If this entire excercise is intended to boost Sanders primary fortunes, it is not - and your candidate has not joined in the excercise, and there has been no counter-excercise - so try another way?

jalan48

(13,841 posts)
36. Just a few bad apples. No systemic problem at all. She didn't see the 2008 collapse coming either.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:00 AM
Jul 2015
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
27. Hillary Dodge-'em Clinton
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jul 2015

Bought and paid for.

Why do those five people on DU continue to support her?

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
29. It has to be tough. Some liberals genuinely care about climate change.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 10:17 AM
Jul 2015

I assume her polling has noticed that. Some of us are convinced that it is the singular most important & frightening issue we as a species have ever had to stare into they eyes of. It is no wonder that some shrink from its gaze. Some are afraid, some are paid and far too many, are both.

mopinko

(69,990 posts)
38. you do realize
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:39 AM
Jul 2015

that she got a brazillion questions, right? many of them spiked w venom?
no way she was answering all of them, even just for logistical reasons.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
39. Well, at least she answered the Qs about pantsuits & karaoke!
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jul 2015

Good to know. Really helps me get an idea of what she'd do if elected.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
50. That is why we need debates. People should not be brushed off like that
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:12 PM
Jul 2015

nor should they tolerate it when they are being asked to make such an important decision.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
51. Transcanada lobbyist is one of her advisors.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jul 2015

Wow Yes to Hillary is yes to transcanada. Indefensible.

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