2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRomney already gaining back in recent poll.
from WeAskAmerica..
We have a motto at We Ask America Polls: The Numbers are the Numbers. That means that if the audience we dial meets our standards, we dont second-guess the resultseven if the numbers buck conventional wisdom.
Here are the head-to-head results,
Gingrich 32%
Romney 34%
Santorum 9%
Paul 8%
Undecided 17%
Date: 1/23//2012 - Participants: 946 Likely voters - Margin of Error: ± 3.19%
Granted, this poll was completed just minutes before another debate commenceda forum where Gingrich often excels and Romney can display an equivocating persona. But we believe that Florida voters are still making up their minds and the next few days could make pollsters nauseous from heaving swells of change. A key indicator for us is that Romney one again easily leading the pack when we asked who voters thought would ultimately win the nomination without regard to their personal choice.
http://weaskamerica.com/2012/01/24/florida-surprise/
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I suspect Willard might have gained even more after the debate last night since Gingrich didnt have a rabid crowd cheering for him.
aquart
(69,014 posts)God, the Republicans are impressive.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)yes that is "adorable".
RandySF
(58,706 posts)PPP has Newt up by 2.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)which shitbag do I want to waste my vote on?
IFOWONCO
(16 posts)everyone and their mother who can get on TV has been saying that Romney will ultimately win the nomination. That is the kind of sentiment that may change much slower and over more time than an individual's personal choice. I'm just saying that in this particular case, I don't buy that predicted winner of the nomination process necessarily reflects who is actually going to win.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Unless we had a national primary.
There are fifty different states (and some territories) that have ways of selecting delegates to the Rethug convention in Tampa. Romney is going to do well in some of them, such as New Hampshire, Michigan, and the Western states, and Gingrich is going to do well in the South. What counts is who can win in the larger Northeastern and Midwestern states, and it could go either way in most cases, depending on who had a good week at the debates before any particular primary or caucus.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Gingrich is still sitting pretty right now but this situation is indeed fluid.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)It will remain fluid for quite some time, probably all the way to the convention. The media will seek to shore up the losing side, because coronations don't sell newspapers, battles do.
Also, these polls don't possibly take into effect the release of Mitt's tax returns. As ordinary Americans sit down to do their taxes, they can face the stark reality of what Romney rakes in when compared to the relative pittance they make. And let's not forget those large line items under "Charitable Contributions" to the Mormon church, we all know that he's a member and he contributes, but seeing just how many millions he shovels out to them to spew hate and fight marriage equality, it has to make a lot of people squirm, even if they're not fundies.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Should be interesting how this plays out. I do think Florida could be the turning point for whoever wins it.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Frankly, I'm surprised that Newt hasn't called for Santorum to drop out, but I'd bet he thinks he can win Florida without that happening. If he does call for that, it's because he's sensed that Willard is regaining the upper hand.
I do expect Gingrich to win the Florida primary decisively, Santorum or no Santorum. I just can't see Santorum having any traction to make it all the way through February to Super Tuesday, and if Newt doesn't completely implode (Santorum's only hope), then it will be a two-man race by Super Tuesday.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)That might be enough for him to take it the rest of the way.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)if Romney does eke out a win in Florida. There are a bunch of Northeast refugees living there, I've talked to quite a few people who have moved down there, and they don't mind either the Mormon or the rich-guy thing, so it is indeed possible.
But Newt's been throwing a lot of red meat to the tea partiers, and I think they'll come out strong for him. Even the fundies have decided that a vote for Santorum is a vote for Romney. I don't expect the margin of victory for Gingrich that he got in SC, but with Florida being winner-take-all, it doesn't have to be.
However, if Romney does win, he has a number of small victories coming in February that may not add up to many delegates, but will keep him buoyed up in news stories. On the other hand, Gingrich has something to look forward to: Santorum dropping out when he runs completely out of money.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)between a couple of pathetic losers.
and the stakes could not be higher!
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)And you and I will be quaffing a few while it's all going down in a week from now. It's sort of like watching cockfighting, except no creatures that we feel sympathy for are getting hurt!
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)I have noticed that they always seem to be very accurate.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)But clearly its going to be horserace to win Florida.
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)I mean, he's the nasty-ass guy we all remember from school, who used to destroy without building. But I really cannot feel any empathy for Mittens, either.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)everything including the kitchen sink against Mittens on Thursday.