Trump is a High-Speed Train Wreck...Is Hillary Another in Slow Motion?

[tgards79]

Don't minimize or dismiss Donald Trump. He is a high-speed train wreck obliterating the race for the GOP nomination as a functioning process. And there is no end in sight -- he is built to last, perhaps even through an independent run. And is Hillary Clinton a train wreck as well, in slow motion? Joe Biden is clearly beginning to wonder.
http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2015/08/july-2015-election-review-one-high.html

[muriel_volestrangler]

1. Nothing in the article that shows how Hillary is comparable to Trump

Nice link-bait title, though. Congrats, I guess. You got me to look.

[tgards79]

12. Why thank you, I think...

Hillary is about as far from Trump as you can get, in almosy every way. The "train wreck" analogy is the only link. The point of the article is that Trump's train wreck is destroying everything in sight (including the GOP), whereas Hillary's train may - may - be undergoing a slow motion disaster.

[artislife]

2. A 1000 cuts...

The Hillary Clinton who by any standard is an exceptional candidate is running against her own propensity for secrecy and obfuscation, a working press starved for stories on the Democratic side, and an array of GOP billionaires obsessed with bringing her down. Every month brings another revelation in the email story. Hillary can probably survive what has been revealed thus far, but are there still others out there that could add up to the proverbial thousand cuts? Thus we are watching another train rolling through the American political landscape, the slow-moving Hillary Special, as it deflects various impediments on its tracks and plows on with ever more dented armor, hoping it arrives before it derails.

[tgards79]

10. Well....

...last time the Bernie people accused me of being a Hillary toadie...

[Sheepshank]

3. ahhhhhh, no.

don't know what to tell ya. She is not a wreck in slow motion. But the media is salivating over trying make it so:

a working press starved for stories on the Democratic side, and an array of GOP billionaires obsessed with bringing her down.

the only "story" they have is about her email and a constant weak attempt at Benghazi!

Gotta milk it for all it worth, and if there isn't enough milk to squeeze out of those stories, then they just make up shit. Of coure they get caught every once in a while and it's a momentary embarassement, but never fear, they assume (probably rightly so), that every one will forget the NYT faux pas and will simply ressurect the story with a new headline.

[tgards79]

4. i agree with most of this...

But i look at the numbers and her favorability rating is down to 44% and dropping. She needs to start taking control of the narrative, at the very least. Coming clean on all potential email news might help.

[pnwmom]

5. Look into the demographics of the polls you're worrying about. The last one people were

citing here actually polled more Rethugs than Dems. So it's no surprise that Hillary's overall favorability showed the Repub tilt.

[tgards79]

7. Actually, the 44% was an average of the 9 different polls....

...in the month of July. Ignore at your peril. And I am a big Hillary fan and certainly want to see her win in November '16.

[pnwmom]

9. I see that you're right. And when I looked into it,

I ran into this article. You might find it interesting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/29/upshot/likable-enough-clintons-exaggerated-favorability-problem.html?abt=0002&abg=1

[tgards79]

11. Very good article...

...thanks for pointing it out!

I think the Clinton in 1992 and McCain in 2008 analogies are a stretch, though. Bill Clinton was an unknown then, and John McCain ran a horrendous campaign that included abandoning his maverick positioning, pretending to be a true conservative, and selecting Sarah Palin as his Vice President. No wonder everyone ended up hating him!

Hillary -- and her supporters, like me -- should not draw comfort by poo-pooing bad numbers. Take them seriously and address them instead.

[rock]

6. The Press hates how Hillary plays it close to her chest

As does her opponents. Even some of her supporters. I love to see her act almost nonchallant until she's ready to address an issue. It drives the anti-Clinton crowd nuts!

[tgards79]

8. Nonchalance did not work too well in 2008...

...she needs a new playbook! And I am a supporter!

[rock]

17. Patience

Incidentally 2008 was a special case. Obama had charisma and he was Black. Most Democrats couldn't wait to vote for the first Black president! Even then he didn't beat her on individual votes but on electoral votes. We don't have such a special case this time around. Patience.

[Sheepshank]

15. Fox polls are really super accurately scary.....not.

You conveniently left off the link.

You should learn to back up your assertions.....

A 30 point lead is not a train wreck in slow mo.

[tgards79]

19. I'm not sure what you are referencing....but...

...here is the link. http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2015/08/july-2015-election-review-one-high.html

You can easily get all the latest detailed polling info at HuffPo or realclearpolitics.

[Sheepshank]

22. The article does not disclose where the numbers came from

but from the "Name Removed" post, they were the exact numbers that Fox polls had cited just yesterday.

[tgards79]

20. When your lead starts at 60....

...going to 30 may or may not be a train wreck in slow motion. Same with your approval ratings, from 60's to 44. I certainly hope it isn't, but if you think Dems are not concerned, you are simply ignoring the obvious. And again, I'm a fan.

[Sheepshank]

21. after 2 decades of the media & Republicans shitting on Hillary

and realizing they haven't lifted a finger yet towards Bernie....those are amazing numbers.

They are leaving Bernie alone, hoping they can assist him in winning the Primary. If he makes it through the Primary, the GE will be a blood bath.

So, I'm focusing on the GE and how Hillary is the one that can take on the Kocks and whomever they decide to bankroll.

[tgards79]

23. Yes, good point...

...Hillary is the answer, not Bernie...

[zappaman]

13. Lol!

[Puglover]

16. Hillary is nothing like

Trump.

Idiot article.

[tgards79]

18. Of course she is not...

...you missed the point.