Well, we've seen these nut-jobs last night. Yet they could win the 2016 Elections. How? Through

[Cal33]

fraud. And they have an endless number of ways of practicing this fraud: gerrymandering;
preventing the poor, the elderly, the minorities ..... from voting; rigged electronic voting
machines, etc. ........ They are deliberately evil in almost everything they do!!

Will we do more to counteract the above crooked means this time around? I think 2016 is
the one election we can't afford to lose.

[bowens43]

1. They don't need fraud, they have the American people....

NEVER underestimate the stupidity, ignorance and bigotry of the american voter.

[Cal33]

4. Unless you do something to try to elevate those you've just described, this attitude isn't going

to change anything, or be of help to anyone.

[BeyondGeography]

2. Turnout

They're excited and we're not. We are by far the biggest threat to ourselves.

[kenfrequed]

6. There is a lot of excitement at the Sanders rallies

A lot of energy and turnout there as well. Too bad many people don't seem to think things work this way.

[Cal33]

8. You're correct. Sanders works at a steadily high pace. Right now perhaps half of the

American people haven't even heard of him. This will change within a few months.
He does draw crowds wherever he goes. And he intends to go all over the place.
And we have 15 months till Election Day. That's a lot of time for someone like
Bernie, and he wastes none of it.

And Bernie is a fighter and a winner.

[ladjf]

3. That's mainly how they've been winning. nt

[Cal33]

7. Sad, but true. Sociopaths stop at nothing to gain their objectives: more money and power over people

[ladjf]

9. That's it. The question is what can we do about it?

I think Bernie is working on some steps forward in this matter.

[Cal33]

12. The fact that Republicans control 90% of the news media is of incredible help in keeping the

American people uninformed and misinformed with their lies.

Democrats must start on this long-term objective of gaining more and effective influence in the
news media. We've got to let more Republicans know that they are being lied to by their leaders
and help them learn the truth of what their leaders are really doing.

I have an idea which I will write about here in the near future.

[ladjf]

15. I'll look forward to reading your ideas. nt

[ericson00]

5. Moody's Analytics, nailing it since 1980 in terms of outcome,

predicts a Dem victory. I feel good A narrow one, but a win is a win is a win.

They'll only win either thru Florida 2000 like things, or if Obama's approvals go under 40. He's been very good at keeping them steady, now he just needs to raise them more as insulation.

[Cal33]

10. Did Moody's Analytics also say anything about Dems. winning or losing the House and the Senate?

[ericson00]

17. I don't think they did, but when they have us at 270 electoral votes, on the button,

lets just concentrate on that. That's 1 EV closer than GW Bush got in 2000 (before accounting for Jeb's rigging of FL)

us getting exactly 270 looks like:

[Cal33]

18. I expect that things will have changed a lot for the better by Nov. 2016.

[FSogol]

11. They only win if we don't all show up and vote.

No waffle-making or sitting out this one regardless of who gets the Democratic nomination.

[Cal33]

14. Right you are!

[jeff47]

13. Fraud is not required.

The "swing" states are urban/rural divide states. The rural voters vote Republican, and they almost always vote. The urban voters vote Democratic, and are less likely to vote.

To lose, all we have to do is continue our efforts from 2010 and 2014: Apologize for being Democrats and back Republican policies while feigning concern over the harm those policies cause. That gets us low turnout, as in 2010 and 2014, and we lose.

Say, proposing some "exciting" new tax cuts while claiming to be worried about race and poverty. Which sounds very familiar....

[Cal33]

16. Lying, cheating, and stealing are a part of the nature of the sociopath. They can't stop doing it.

Whether it's required or not is irrelevant. To them it just comes naturally. A high percentage of
leaders belonging to the Republican Party are that way. Unfortunately, some Democrats are like
that, too -- perhaps fewer in number and less vicious in degree. This is nothing new. They have
always been with us.