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Fri Aug 7, 2015, 05:31 PM

Sign this pettition calling for more Debates. Feel the bern



[link:https://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/more-debates?source=em150807su-fwd|

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Reply Sign this pettition calling for more Debates. Feel the bern (Original post)
Vincardog Aug 2015 OP
slipslidingaway Aug 2015 #1
orpupilofnature57 Aug 2015 #2
Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #3
Vincardog Aug 2015 #4
Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #5
Vincardog Aug 2015 #6
Agschmid Aug 2015 #7
brooklynite Aug 2015 #8
Vincardog Aug 2015 #9
brooklynite Aug 2015 #10
Vincardog Aug 2015 #11
brooklynite Aug 2015 #13
Vincardog Aug 2015 #20
brooklynite Aug 2015 #21
Vincardog Aug 2015 #22
RobertEarl Aug 2015 #12
brooklynite Aug 2015 #14
RobertEarl Aug 2015 #15
brooklynite Aug 2015 #16
RobertEarl Aug 2015 #17
brooklynite Aug 2015 #18
RobertEarl Aug 2015 #19
Vincardog Aug 2015 #23
brooklynite Aug 2015 #24
Vincardog Aug 2015 #25
brooklynite Aug 2015 #26
Vincardog Aug 2015 #27

Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Fri Aug 7, 2015, 06:31 PM

1. knr n/t

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Fri Aug 7, 2015, 06:33 PM

2. Contrary to what Gov. Cuomo say's about debates, they Do inform the voter, the How, why, and Who

 

is going to run my life, because your going to appoint them ?

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Fri Aug 7, 2015, 06:33 PM

3. Done! nt.

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Response to Juicy_Bellows (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 02:06 AM

4. Thanks

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 04:57 AM

5. Kick!

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Response to Juicy_Bellows (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 04:59 PM

6. Thanks

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:31 PM

7. Meh.

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Response to Vincardog (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:43 PM

8. A first name only, internet petition? That'll convince them...

...or more precisely, it'll give the sanders campaign your email address for future mailings and fund solicitations. What they call in the biz "a butterfly net"

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:22 PM

9. If you don't want to, don't do it. Bernie can ask me to do anything, He is working on

issues that matter to me.

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:04 PM

10. If you really cared about this, why didn't you write to the DNC directly?

Mailing address:
Democratic National Committee
430 South Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003

Main phone number: 202-863-8000

Of course, then you'd have to come up with a reason in your own words...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:06 PM

11. I call DWS every day. What do you do? Have anything other than snark?

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:30 AM

13. Actually, I had a private call with DWS last week...

...but since I'm not worried about the debate schedule, I don't feel the need to "do something". As for "snark", I have a great deal of respect for people committed enough to their causes (whatever or whoever they are) to take serious action. Slacktivism however, is a real waste of time.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #13)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:41 PM

20. Calling writing and demanding more opportunities to educate voters is slacktivism but

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calling out anyone who does the real work is "taking serious action".

That is machine failure.

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #20)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:17 PM

21. No, "signing" an Internet poll is alcktivism

anyone who takes the time to contact DNC directly with their own comments has my utmost respect.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #21)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:48 PM

22. So I have your utmost respect for calling the DNC and your scorn for signing a petition.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:18 PM

12. I'd like to hear...

 

Brooklynite writes:

"Of course, then you'd have to come up with a reason in your own words..."'

Like to hear the reason, in your own words, why you think there should be only six debates and a 2 month wait before the first.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:36 AM

14. I'd be delighted to...

...I believe that campaigns should be as efficient as possible. Spending time preparing for, traveling to, and then traveling from, debates that - in aggregate -appeal largely to political activists who are already committed to one of the candidates is not the best use of a candidate's time this far out. Additionally, endless debates that revisit the same material add nothing to our political discourse. Four debates closer in to the first primaries, and two later in the Primary cycle seems will maximize attention from less engaged voters who will be the bulk of the undecided, and will be perfectly adequate to discern the differences between the five (as opposed to 17) candidates we have to choose from.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:07 PM

15. 24 million viewers in the recent debate

 

That's a pretty efficient way to reach 24 million people in one day. So that kills that argument about efficiency.

Then you say something about endless debates revisiting the same material. But that is what the campaigns are all about, traveling all over, making speeches to small crowds revisiting the same material. Talk about inefficient! Yet that is all you offer.

I had hoped you would come clean and just admit that the last thing the DNC wants is to help Bernie in any way. It's all too evident, and it is un-democratic. The party operatives should be ashamed of themselves for supporting such. I wish they'd all do the honest thing and resign. They are hurting the party by opposing what the People want, and that is more debates.

So, again your argument loses. And frankly, is un-democratic.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #15)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:38 PM

16. How many of those 24 million were there for the Donald Trump train wreck?

if Trump hadn't been on stage I doubt they would have gotten half as many viewers.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #16)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:54 PM

17. You doubt?

 

Well we have seen that you doubt more democracy via more debates is a good thing, so your doubts are pretty much null and void.

When the DNC finally allows Bernie to take the stage in a national debate, there will be close to 35 million tune in to watch Hillary feel the Bern.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #17)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:55 PM

18. So then, you DON'T need an endless stream of debates month after month?

Boy this is confusing...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:10 PM

19. You are confused

 

Bernie has called for many, many debates. He even wants to debate the republicans, now.

I stand with Bernie and against the DNC operatives who are shaking in fear of there being real democratic debates that will end as soon as the election is over.

So, enough of your silly 'endless debates' pablum.

Why do you fear debates? Do you think Hillary will go down in flames? If so, I think your are dead on and is why the DNC operatives are pissing themselves in fear of real democracy.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 03:56 PM

23. There it is - you want Government to run like a BUSINESS. TOO bad it isn't nor is it meant to

The US government was formed to do what businesses had no desire to do:
HELP PEOPLE.
That is what Bernie is working to return us to,
and what CONSERVATIVES FEAR he will be able to do.
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Response to Vincardog (Reply #23)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:23 PM

24. No, I want CAMPAIGNS to run like a business

i don't want them to waste time or money, because there's a fine amount of both.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 04:28 PM

25. Do You believe that introducing new voters to Democratic Populist Policies is a waste? Or do

you FEAR it will hurt HRC's chances by making her take real positions
on matters that affect PEOPLE?

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #25)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 07:17 PM

26. Not at all..

but apparently you feel they CAN'T be introduced in one debate...or six?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #26)

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 07:26 PM

27. I believe they should be exposed to them as soon as possible. The GOP should NOT have 2 Months

To spread their LIES without any Democratic response.

Please tell me what Democratic purpose is served by your position?

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