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HappyPlace

(568 posts)
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:58 AM Aug 2015

Protestors target Sanders because he has the mic, and doesn't have Secret Service.

I reject this notion that Secretary Clinton's people are behind the disruption of Sanders events.

First of all, I don't think Black Lives Matter people (if indeed one can say that they have an organization) are targeting Sanders events in the first place; I think that the BLM movement is being used a convenient excuse to increase exposure by a few people who use civil disobedience to promote their cause(s).

Yesterday's protestors are associated with this group https://outsideagitators206.org/

Seems to be an in-your-face sort of group willing to break the rules of civil discourse in the (imagined) furtherance of their cause(s).

I think it doesn't work and is counterproductive, but that's just me.

I think they go after Bernie because he has the attention of the people tight now and pretty poor security.

Hillary isn't out there very much and when she is she enjoys the protection of the Secret Service.

http://www.secretservice.gov/protection.shtml

Now I hope that Sanders gets better security and I hope his team more clearly addresses POC and the BLM movement.

But, more than that, I hope we can keep from being distracted away from fighting against the GOP, who are really the ones who need to be exposed and beaten down.

Happy Sunday.

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Protestors target Sanders because he has the mic, and doesn't have Secret Service. (Original Post) HappyPlace Aug 2015 OP
Why can't local police be there? With that many people in one location, regardless libdem4life Aug 2015 #1
Hillary's people are not behind these protests true ibegurpard Aug 2015 #2
True they aren't behind these protests artislife Aug 2015 #4
We're in the primaries... ljm2002 Aug 2015 #3
Lax security, I hope that will change going forward. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #5
So are they going to start a #bowdownhillary hash tag as well? Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #6
The size of Sanders' crowds is a reason for them to want the mic. winter is coming Aug 2015 #7
They target him because he is Hillary's main rival AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #8
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
1. Why can't local police be there? With that many people in one location, regardless
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:07 PM
Aug 2015

of who is speaking, they have an obligation to keep the peace.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
2. Hillary's people are not behind these protests true
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:13 PM
Aug 2015

But they sure as shit WERE behind the messaging that Bernie Sanders doesn't address the issues of people of color that started long before the Netroots Nation protests. And that is why some people are blaming her campaign.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
4. True they aren't behind these protests
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:02 PM
Aug 2015

But they are completely opportunistic!

Tittering at the upheaval.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
3. We're in the primaries...
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:48 PM
Aug 2015

...so OF COURSE attention is being drawn to the differences between candidates in our own party.

Our candidates are beating down the Republicans plenty. As for policy differences between Democratic candidates, Sanders has taken the high road when questioned about Clinton, insisting on presenting his own policies rather than bashing hers. Yet Sanders is being attacked on racial issues, when his record shows him to be a consistent, long-time and uncompromising supporter of racial equality.

I don't make any claims about political dirty tricks, but I do find it very, very weird that Bernie Sanders of all candidates has been singled out by Black Lives Matter. After the Netroots Nation disruption, they specifically said they were going to target ALL campaigns. They have not done so, and yes, I do wonder why that is.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
5. Lax security, I hope that will change going forward.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:14 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie has the spotlight right now and, apparently, very little security.

Hillary has Secret Service protection for life, and the republicans probably all have armed plainclothes agents and a heavy police presence, and I expect O'Malley has more protection, too.

So they go for Bernie.

I think it's majorly fucked up of them, a sign of weakness and laziness (literally and intellectually) and pathetic.

But I'm concerned that if they can get than close to him then so can any number of lone nuts or hired killers.

Be careful, Senator!

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
6. So are they going to start a #bowdownhillary hash tag as well?
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:30 PM
Aug 2015

Secret Service may be able to keep them off the stage, but they can not stop them from creating #bowdownhillary or #hillarysoblack hashtags. If they are sincerely going after all candidates rather than focusing only on one then it seems strange that not only have we not seen any protests at Hillary events, we have not even seen a hashtag targeting her. You can't blame that on her security.

I strongly support the objectives that Black Lives Matter was formed to address, I strongly oppose those who are trying to hijack the movement to help out their candidate in the primaries.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
7. The size of Sanders' crowds is a reason for them to want the mic.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015

It's not a reason to call people liberal white supremacists.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
8. They target him because he is Hillary's main rival
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 02:45 PM
Aug 2015

Whatever their point is/was has been lost in the mindlessness of their actions. They are now bottom feeding trolls in the style of the Jerry Springer show.

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