Obama the sellout.

[Drunken Irishman]

[flamingdem]

1. bookmarked nt

[MADem]

2. Nicely laid out--requires a small investment, but there's a big reward in there! nt

[OverseaVisitor]

3. Obama is Obama

Another human being like all of us.
But he got intelligent, character, ethic, confident and got a real spine ( backbone)
And he sure know how to deliver knock out punches.

USA after 8 years of bush was about to go off the cliff.

Let me recall, He was going to change how Washington work. ( Oh well not easy he ran smack into it but he punches back, he will get there just quite impossible alone)
It was "Yes We Can " did not work to well ( 2010 boom congress change hand ..... aaah where was the we )
Only thing going for him His Office POTUS.
Will the thousands of problem he inherited and a very hostile environment he really handle him self like superman

I will repost a music for him

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He is not indifference he just got no time to answer everyone need.
And he care
But where is the appreciation and the love
He should not be playing Solitaire
And he is a human being with very human limitation and like all of us 24 hours in a day

Yeah I do not like the baby step but he is not GOD

[Mimosa]

4. ^ What a sensible, eloquent post ^

Welcome to D.U., OverseaVisitor.

[OverseaVisitor]

9. Thank You

As a fellow earthlings. I have a stake.
We need to change direction.
As I look around he is really the best bet globally of making that change.

" Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody willing to go yet."

For many leaders

" Every leader wants to help the people after they finish helping them self "

For OBAMA

Give him 4 more years

[agent46]

12. Wonderful Post

I'll pay the beer money.



Welcome to DU.

[OverseaVisitor]

13. Thank You

And I welcome you too

[Lochloosa]

18. Thank you OverseaVisitor....this one's on me

[OverseaVisitor]

19. It is always OV

to my mates

[Surya Gayatri]

20. What you said, Oversea! +1,000!

And your choice of music is spot on...

[OverseaVisitor]

26. 1000

[graywarrior]

21. Beautiful post

Welcome.

[OverseaVisitor]

24. Thank You

[roguevalley]

5. They will all want their exemptions, settlements of cases to their favor, overlooking of

bad behavior. He'll give it to them. He will hide the shit with the shiny stuff, like ending the war on drugs. The shit will be there but we'll be looking at the pretty baubles. Not much hope for any of us is there. I'm glad I'm old. I can remember when dems were different.

[Drunken Irishman]

6. 'I can remember when Dems were different...'

Like on what?

I tire of this argument. Democrats are imperfect beings. They're humans and because of that, they make mistakes, they take unpopular stands, they ignore rising sentiments and sometimes screw us over in the process.

A lot of liberals like to say this isn't their father's Democratic Party and oh how horrible it's become!

You want to know what my father's Democratic Party was? It was the Democratic Party that sent him off to Vietnam on a lie, poisoned him with herbicides and defoliants and left him, and thousands of men just like him, with scars that time could never heal.

Lyndon Johnson was every much a Democrat as Obama and his Vietnam policies were some of the most ghastly, awful, historically corrupt policies of any president in American history.

'Dems were different...' like when a great deal of the party supported segregation and opposed civil rights? Or do they not count? Does JFK's tepid response to the civil rights movement count? What about FDR's pledge to ban lynching that went unenforced because he was too afraid of losing the southern Democrats who supported it? What about the interment of Japanese-Americans - is that when Democrats were different?

Or do you mean Woodrow Wilson? Of course not, because Wilson was a racist who openly lied to the American people about not going to war to win reelection and then he turned around and...uh...went to war.

Face it, rogue, no president has clean hands. Wilson was a racist, FDR turned his head on domestic atrocities, Truman dropped two fucking atom bombs on Japan, Kennedy took us to the brink of nuclear war with the Soviets because of his aggressive Cold War policies and Johnson...well...I went over Johnson.

Maybe the only morally pure president we've ever had was Jimmy Carter and unfortunately, Carter was also the president who kick started the deregulation craze of the 70s, 80s and 90s.

'I can remember when Dems were different...'

You think you can. But no, the Democrats of yesteryear have been flawed, just like Obama. It's not a knock on them. It's just a statement of fact. They were human. Humans make mistakes and make bad calls. Obama is human and therefore will make mistakes and do things you hate. But so did Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy, Truman, Roosevelt and Wilson.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

14. Actually some Dems were awful when I was growing up.

George Wallace for one. I remember when all of the racists ran over to the Republican Party and Nixon started his Southern Strategy. Then there was Carter who was mostly elected by the South. If it hadn't been for the pardon Ford would have won. He was seen as the average guy kicking back on the sofa with a beer watching football. He spent most of his time touring America's golf courses and handing out "WIN" buttons. A lot of the country were convinced the South had put a hayseed in the White House. Helen Thomas remarked that Carter's press conferences were like attending Sunday School. Then came Reagan who was a total robot and that's when the Republicans decided to treat the Presidency like it was just a PR department. Toss your spokesman out there to cover for you as you run things behind the scenes. Bush I got in only because the Dems ran a guy with a funny name that sounded like he was going to screw America. (Oh yes, please do-cock-us). Then came the DLC and Clinton. Dems acted like the ONLY formula that would work was Southern Democrats. After all the last winners, LBJ,....from the South, Carter,...from the South, Clinton,...from the South. We were looking at Southern moderate to right leaning Democrats for a least another generation.

Then along comes Obama who actually TOOK CHARGE of the party instead of following it. He throws all of the calculations out the door and proves everybody wrong in the DC cocktail crowd. He picks another Washington "outsider" in Biden who didn't hang with that crowd either but knows their games.

We live in a time of major transformation.

And I have to tell ya,...it looks pretty good from here.....

[roguevalley]

27. some were. many were awesome and duked it out toe to toe.

if all you can remember is wallace, google the others. rayburn, wayne morse and the others. If Mr. Obama was such a take charge tough guy why did he waste two and a half years trying compromise with bastards? How many FUCK NO's did he have to hear from them to get it? The frustration people feel is REAL and not tied to imaginary angst.

I love him but he's disappointed me for three years. His aggression now was what he needed back then. No drama obama is the wrong man to face this crowd.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

31. Like I said, "some".

The Democratic Party was always the party of the working man but the South was an anomaly. That included protecting your job from the black man.

The 60's was a time of transformation too.

Prior to that blacks traditionally voted for the party of Lincoln, despite the fact that Republicans represented the party of big business.

Republicans accepting the Southern Dems as their own condemned them to be on the wrong side of history on every issue at that point.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

32. BTW: Obama was doing the "reaching out" thing until Republicans became a joke.

They couldn't help themselves. They aren't clever like they used to be. They used to try to craft language to get Liberals on board but now all they do is attack them.

To top it off they act like elections are all about a choice between realities. You don't like Climate Change? Vote for the reality where it's not happening.

[roguevalley]

25. I'm not talking about flaws and personal imperfections. I'm talking about values and waht

they stood for and did. Wayne Morse. Look him up. Look up Sam Rayburn and others. I am talking about dems who had dem values and fought for them. I'm not seeking perfection in anyone. I'm seeking a dem with guts, who will stand up for all of us. Poverty is rising everywhere because of the corporation owned asshats who squat in the congress and live in the white house. That is what I'm sick of. I can remember when it was different. I am that old.

[Hippo_Tron]

29. You speak of Wayne Morse as though he were running the Democratic Party

And in reality, he was pretty much an outcast. We still have people who are to the left of the President, like Bernie Sanders, Russ Feingold, etc.

To a certain extent there is less of a commitment to economic justice within the Democratic Party. The problem is that it's substantially more difficult to have a commitment to economic justice when a large segment of the population that would benefit from that commitment vote staunchly Republican, because god forbid we let black people vote, women control their bodies, and gay people get married.

[roguevalley]

33. then we have to give them a REASON to trust that we speak for them and being a

grovelly coward like too many are will not do it. Say what you will about the fuckers, they slap hard. We have forgotten to punch back.

[OverseaVisitor]

7. Trust him

He got no choice.
Either that a big blow up.
Trust the baby, the little one, the animals in their judgement of him.

But I think they know ( Financial sector got some real messages )
Look where the money is going.

I think he got tired of being or playing nice.
If he wins I think he will take a big big stick ( The podium of the POTUS )

His policies are right but they are getting all tied up in Washington.

The drumbeat of spending cut is really cut the safety net which he is trying to prevent.
His effort to help strengthen the safety net had meet stiff opposition. ( How many time have they try to repeal ACA )
All this just merely obstruction and time wasting. But he got only 24 hours a day.

[OverseaVisitor]

11. I understand

your frustration.

Yes I admit he was trying hard to be reasonable. To move forward in a give and take manner so to say.
That was Obama the nice guy, the reasonable, the dreamer.
He has grown hard and frustrated, and as a person of confident who is really at peace with him self, he will go on the offensive.

A Happy tune for everyone, ok some will be unhappy especially the cough cough who is going to need to provide the present


After 4 years one has to note the shift.

Watching his campaign this year there is a shift.
He is not playing defensive or Mr Nice Guy not more.
Washington better wake up to the mood of the POTUS

[JDPriestly]

8. University donations are probably individual donations.

I don't think that universities actually contribute to campaigns. That would especially be true of state universities like the University of California.

Law firm donations are probably also primarily individual donors who work for the firms.

Same may be true for brokerage houses, but I don't know.

[Drunken Irishman]

10. That's pretty much how it is for all these corporations.

[joshcryer]

15. All donations are "individual donations."

What you're seeing when corporations go for a given candidate or another are the dynamics of the inner workings of those corporations and their employees.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. All the donations are individual

When you make an individual donation, you usually state your employer. That's how Goldman Sachs pops up. Goldman itself (as an entity) doesn't donate.

[geckosfeet]

16. Thanks for taking the time to research and post...

[robinlynne]

22. How can the US Dept of State and the US government be political donors?

[boxman15]

23. It's not the institutions that donate, it's the employees.

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People employed by the government donated what you see there. Same thing if you see a branch of the military or a public university, for instance.

[robinlynne]

30. ok.

[Hippo_Tron]

28. Dodd-Frank was a good step in the right direction

Wall Street backed Obama the last time knowing he would win and quite frankly their money bought them quite a bit when you consider that socializing the failed banks was an option that was seriously discussed.

But Wall Street bankers have some of the thinnest skins of anybody on the planet and were seriously offended that the President insinuated that they were responsible for the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression. As far as those people are concerned, they did absolutely nothing wrong. And now they're backing Mitt Romney because he will stroke their egos and tell them that they did nothing wrong and that big mean Obama is just picking on them.