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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:06 PM Aug 2015

DWS let every1 know the debate schedule is up to her & there is no recourse

"1 The DNC debate schedule is fixed and could only be changed by the DNC chair.

2 I am the DNC chair.

3 Therefore, the DNC debate schedule cannot be changed in any way."





but haha "We're super thrilled to hear that people are so eager to participate in our debates!"

To think some pretend that's *democracy*. Democracy will bite you in the ass yet Debbie.
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DWS let every1 know the debate schedule is up to her & there is no recourse (Original Post) Catherina Aug 2015 OP
Sooner than later the DNC calls or writes LakeVermilion Aug 2015 #1
I'm already doing that- ruffburr Aug 2015 #5
I not only give them nada, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #20
Excellent idea! SoapBox Aug 2015 #25
I did, too. Let it all out. 840high Aug 2015 #30
They already called me RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #61
it is a chicken shit move that may hurt our chances in the general election. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #2
The Oligarchs and their minions don't care if Bush wins, just as long as a progressive doesn't rhett o rick Aug 2015 #7
^yes. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #14
That would be my guess. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #28
Bingo! Scuba Aug 2015 #52
Exactly Lorien Aug 2015 #57
"May"? This is likely to give the GE to Trump. This is SO Sick. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #10
Trump won't be the candidate. The Bush Crime Family are glad to let Trump steal rhett o rick Aug 2015 #15
Well, it was certainly considerate of Trump to call Bill Clintons to ask their 'advice' 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #16
Trump is a businessman... CincyDem Aug 2015 #26
I kind of hope that Jeb wins the nomination because... RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #62
Very good. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #66
Trump will end up as a third party candidate to split Lorien Aug 2015 #58
Well, that theory IS consistent with Trump getting Big Dawg's "advice" about running. -nt- 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #59
That as the same point that O"mallet made, and he, like you, Raine1967 Aug 2015 #49
Hey, it's important.... daleanime Aug 2015 #3
Why the Fvck is she still chair?!? TDale313 Aug 2015 #4
We already had 9 debates at this point in 2007, 26 total. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #6
well remember how we were crushed in the 2008 election? Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #8
That seems to be the plan. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #9
2008 didn't work out so well... thesquanderer Aug 2015 #27
You don't think DWS will get her "reward" for handing the nomination to Hillary? 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #12
I think she is trying to hand the nomination to Hillary, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #22
On ^this^ we agree. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #24
Absolutely. 840high Aug 2015 #32
I tend to agree with you on that... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #63
So Hillary can't be trusted in a non-scripted environment nichomachus Aug 2015 #11
President Cheney and VP Rumsfeld handled everything but W's pretzel eating HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #13
Yeah. The first time they left W unsupervised and he choked on a pretzel. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #31
And the Hillary supporters criticize us for our attitude here on DU. jalan48 Aug 2015 #17
Response Beowulf42 Aug 2015 #18
Unfortunately, we're stuck with her until at least 2017 BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #36
From your keyboard to DWS's ears. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #40
Demand that she is made to do just that. Sign the petitions: Lorien Aug 2015 #55
taking "democratic" out of the democratic party. rurallib Aug 2015 #19
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #21
It's hard to respect cowardice. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #23
So if all the candidates - and it would have to be all of them - dflprincess Aug 2015 #29
What would most likely happen... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #34
"there is no recourse" < That's pretty funny, Sure there is. November, 2016. See ya soon. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #33
I still say we should hold a vote on HER. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #35
Can't they implant a listening devise in Hillary's ear Geronimoe Aug 2015 #37
I think she is likely a Republican infiltrator. PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #38
One wonders, doesn't one? SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #41
Corporate democrats and republicans support the same cause. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #43
I spent some time a while ago trying to get this meme adopted: SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #45
If she's allowed to continue she'll hand it all to the GOP Lorien Aug 2015 #56
That's what happens when you don't have faith in your own arguments. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #39
So true. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #65
left gatekeepers gotta gate keep MoveIt Aug 2015 #42
DWS: "I'm the boss so just shut up about it!" Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #44
I just watched the end of Bernie's speech on CSPAN SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #46
I like O'Malley's words but in the end, Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #47
Quite possibly so. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #48
K & R davidpdx Aug 2015 #50
" L' Etat c'est moi". mylye2222 Aug 2015 #51
Any new petitions we can sign? (nt) Babel_17 Aug 2015 #53
Sign the petitions today! Lorien Aug 2015 #54
She's a Democracy hater. n/t L0oniX Aug 2015 #60
It must be killing them Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #64
the REAL mistake of DWS was not pointing out how different a Democrat and a Socialist are ericson00 Aug 2015 #67

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
5. I'm already doing that-
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:15 PM
Aug 2015

I only donate directly to Bernie or occasionally a direct donation to this Senate seat or that house candidate, Nada for the DNC

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
2. it is a chicken shit move that may hurt our chances in the general election.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:09 PM
Aug 2015

The Clown Parade is going to get a lot of free airtime. The party of reasonable people, not so much. That is stupid. I don't care if it helps or hurts any particular candidate, it hurts our party.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. The Oligarchs and their minions don't care if Bush wins, just as long as a progressive doesn't
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:22 PM
Aug 2015

win. That is DWS's number one goal. Keep Sanders out.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
10. "May"? This is likely to give the GE to Trump. This is SO Sick.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:30 PM
Aug 2015

or whatever Trump wanna-be ReThug becomes the GOP nominee.

No matter who the Dem nominee is .. you pegged it.

24/7 wall to wall M$M Clown Car coverage through Primaries.

While Dems dither & stall .. with too-few debates, too-late to gather
the exposure momentum needed to compete.

this is political suicide for the Party, trying to bend it to the will
of the Establishment.


I hope Hillary supporters are "proud" of their candidate

This is on Hill, hell she could pick up the phone and call DWS and say
"you know, maybe we should listen to voters for the betterment of the
Party on this one. Let's have a few more/sooner debates."

But I highly doubt Clinton will do that.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. Trump won't be the candidate. The Bush Crime Family are glad to let Trump steal
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:05 PM
Aug 2015

the attention so Jeb can hide under the table until the voting just like Clinton is. I have a hunch that Rove has the goods on Trump and he, Trump will bow out when appropriate for Jeb.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
16. Well, it was certainly considerate of Trump to call Bill Clintons to ask their 'advice'
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:16 PM
Aug 2015

on getting into the GOP primary race.

This nasty little Bush/Clinton Dynasty knows how to dictate the terms of our pretend "democracy"
to give them & The 1% their wildest dreams ... all on live M$M TeeVee.

CincyDem

(6,338 posts)
26. Trump is a businessman...
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:15 PM
Aug 2015


My money says someone else's money (Koch Bros.???) will provide him with some incentive to step aside at an opportune moment.

He will have done his job, played his role through the primary season. Just like some former politicians are rewarded for their "service" with cushy jobs after their terms, Trump too will be rewarded for his service - only it won't involve him actually being in office.
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
62. I kind of hope that Jeb wins the nomination because...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:16 PM
Aug 2015

JEB = Just Elect Bernie!

I will have a graffiti holiday with the signs, and I am sure many others will!

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
58. Trump will end up as a third party candidate to split
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:35 PM
Aug 2015

the GOP and hand it to Hillary...at least that's their hope. Why else would one of her biggest supporters be running against her? Just Google Trump, Hillary, and the theft of an election.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
3. Hey, it's important....
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:11 PM
Aug 2015

that republicans start months before us and get nearly twice the air time.

How could we really win if we don't give our opponents every possible advantage?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. well remember how we were crushed in the 2008 election?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:26 PM
Aug 2015

it is best to keep our candidates, all of whom are reasonable people with good intentions, as far away from the american public as possible, and to let the public's impression of our candidates be entirely derived from corporate media.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
12. You don't think DWS will get her "reward" for handing the nomination to Hillary?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:43 PM
Aug 2015

Once Hillary becomes POTUS, of course.

Only problem is -- if Hillary's the nominee -- she probably won't make it
to the oval office in Nov 2016.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
63. I tend to agree with you on that...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:07 PM
Aug 2015

But, DWS hasn't thought that far out… That's what power does to these people.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. President Cheney and VP Rumsfeld handled everything but W's pretzel eating
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 08:46 PM
Aug 2015

Pretty sure Clinton would not have or want that sort of support.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
31. Yeah. The first time they left W unsupervised and he choked on a pretzel.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:43 PM
Aug 2015

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jalan48

(13,842 posts)
17. And the Hillary supporters criticize us for our attitude here on DU.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:23 PM
Aug 2015

Who wouldn't be pissed off seeing this kind of crap thrown in their face? What? We're supposed to pretend it's all ok?

Beowulf42

(204 posts)
18. Response
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 09:33 PM
Aug 2015

Then it is time to rid ourselves of Debbie. We need, and America needs, a vigorous and lively debate about the problems we face and the proposed solutions. I don't want to vote for a candidate and discover that I voted for Republican lite. Debbie, rig the election and you will pay. I hate to say it, but Bill Clinton was the best Republican President since Ike.

Response to Catherina (Original post)

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
29. So if all the candidates - and it would have to be all of them -
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:42 PM
Aug 2015

agreed to a debated hosted by the League of Women Voters (for example) what's Debbie going to do? Announce that they all broke the rules and will be banned from the convention?

Of course, this is only a theory. I don't imagine all of them would agree to something like this.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
34. What would most likely happen...
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:48 PM
Aug 2015

The DNC would somehow prevent the networks from televising the debate(s) nationally, even going so far as to sue.

So... the "informal" debate(s) would get absolutely no coverage at all. I'm betting that at the same time the real candidates (and not someone who simply wants to be FIRST something or other) were discussing issues, Hillary would be giving a nationally televised speech.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
33. "there is no recourse" < That's pretty funny, Sure there is. November, 2016. See ya soon.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:46 PM
Aug 2015

I'm bringing a pencil, just in case. Maybe you will hear that.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
37. Can't they implant a listening devise in Hillary's ear
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:11 PM
Aug 2015

such that Bill can tell her what to say?

We wouldn't want to have too many debates that might interfere with the Scooby Doo van tour.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
38. I think she is likely a Republican infiltrator.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:14 PM
Aug 2015

No other reasonable reason for the results she has and hopes to achieve.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
41. One wonders, doesn't one?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:58 PM
Aug 2015

Or a corporate infiltrator (if I am not repeating myself).

Oh wait - a "Democrat" can be a corporate infiltrator as well, of course.

Uncle Joe

(58,300 posts)
39. That's what happens when you don't have faith in your own arguments.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 11:14 PM
Aug 2015

Thanks for the thread, Catherina.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
65. So true.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 09:31 PM
Aug 2015

That and the people who have already paid for a HC presidency and the checks already cashed will not tolerate a loss on their investment. DWS may even be thinking self preservation to a degree.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
46. I just watched the end of Bernie's speech on CSPAN
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 12:22 AM
Aug 2015

He's a better man than I am, hugging DWS without spitting up on her shoulder.

I also didn't like what sounded to me like O'Malley's digs (very mild) at Bernie's running as a Democrat.

But then he tore into the DNC's lack of debates, and his nod to the 50-state strategy. Go Martin!

Edited to say that O'Malley, polished as he is, needs a good speech coach. Bernie, I think, is a natural.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
47. I like O'Malley's words but in the end,
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 12:28 AM
Aug 2015

he'll throw his support to Hillary because he's a good little party boy which is exactly what turns me off about him.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
48. Quite possibly so.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 12:34 AM
Aug 2015

Bernie will as well, I think, but because he considers what is best in a given situation, not because he is a party automaton.

I edited my above post to say something sorta like that. O'Malley said things I liked about the debate schedule, he was polished, but he seemed kinda canned.

Edited to add: still watching, nothing touches Bernie's urgency and conviction.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
51. " L' Etat c'est moi".
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 08:08 AM
Aug 2015

Said absolute monarch Louis XIV.

Few debate to keep the most notorious candidate as safe as possible.

Pretty undemocratic decision.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
67. the REAL mistake of DWS was not pointing out how different a Democrat and a Socialist are
Sun Aug 30, 2015, 12:28 AM
Aug 2015

then we coulda gotten the inevitable loss of Bernie Sanders done earlier.

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