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aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
1. Rasmussen is Republican.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:46 PM
Jul 2012

Scott Rasumussen will even speak at fundraisers for GOP causes. His polls have an incredible right wing slant. Nate Silver has done several studies documenting the problem with Rasumussen polls.


Zogby is quite frankly, the worst pollster in the business. I can't recall any pollster in 2008, (even including Rasumussen) that was dead wrong more often than Zogby. They were terrible. Especially in the Democratic primary of 2008.


The other pollsters are legit. For the best results to go to RCP. They average all of the polls to try and eliminate outliers and bias. Their average of polls for each political contest has proved DEADLY ACCURATE over the last several years. This is the best way to judge what's going on in the Presidential race.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
2. I want to add that the tracking polls are a complete waste of time.
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:50 PM
Jul 2012

Gallup and Rasmussen put out daily tracking polls of the Presidential race. They are completely irrelevant. Don't even look at them. The results are random and you will have wild swings in both directions for absolutely no reason what-so-ever.

MSNBC's Chuck Todd did a whole segment on tracking polls, and why they are not worth your effort. It is not a true way to judge a political race. I don't know why they even bother to post the results each day.


I don't know why RCP includes them in their tally.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
3. Much like the weather, we like to listen to someone who ....
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:53 PM
Jul 2012

thinks they know what will happen in the not to distant future......

CTyankee

(63,893 posts)
10. true, which is why I ignore them. Esp. now. it is too early even for state polls.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 02:42 AM
Jul 2012

In the last week alone, we have had so much negative stuff come out against Romney that we have to do a reset...entirely. This past week set a whole new tone for the campaign. The handwriting is now on the wall...

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
5. I've heard Pew is supposed to be slightly left leaning
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:53 PM
Jul 2012

though from what I can tell, they're reputable and quite accurate. I doubt they're as left leaning as Rasmussen is right leaning... They certainly were in '08. I've noticed that Rasmussen polls are more accurate at the end of an election cycle. It's kinda strange and it's obvious Scot and his polling company do have various motives and have a clear bias.

My guess is Obama's support is slightly less than what it was in '08. It's going to be difficult to replicate that level of success, especially with certain demographics. These polls mostly show the President with small lead, but a lead nevertheless.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
8. As I said, that's what I've heard
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 01:50 AM
Jul 2012

but I've never observed any bias myself. I'm not exactly sure where though and I'm not sure I believe it at all. They were certainly accurate in '08 and they have proven to be a reliable pollster.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
7. This election will be won in a few swing states.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:35 AM
Jul 2012

Overall polls may or may not have great predictive value in such a close race.

I really want to see swing state data, but I don't see that available at this time.

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