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Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:12 PM

 

Hillary Clinton is doing VERY WELL in Arkansas!

Last edited Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Not so well in her adopted home state of New York and much of the rest of the country.

You can take the presidential quiz yourself: https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

The results tell you which candidate most agrees with your views, it's not about which candidate you say you'll vote for.

Bernie's doing well. I like the look of this map.

Among 976,715 voters surveyed:



http://www.isidewith.com/map/d~6L/2016-presidential-election-hillary-clinton-vs-bernie-sanders#z3

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Reply Hillary Clinton is doing VERY WELL in Arkansas! (Original post)
HappyPlace Sep 2015 OP
SonderWoman Sep 2015 #1
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #3
SonderWoman Sep 2015 #7
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #16
Renew Deal Sep 2015 #2
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #5
SonderWoman Sep 2015 #9
beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #4
jfern Sep 2015 #6
VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #11
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #24
leftofcool Sep 2015 #36
questionseverything Sep 2015 #8
wyldwolf Sep 2015 #10
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #15
wyldwolf Sep 2015 #32
brooklynite Sep 2015 #12
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #14
brooklynite Sep 2015 #18
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #19
wyldwolf Sep 2015 #34
Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #13
azmom Sep 2015 #17
AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #20
AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #42
Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #21
customerserviceguy Sep 2015 #22
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #23
SidDithers Sep 2015 #25
customerserviceguy Sep 2015 #39
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #40
pnwmom Sep 2015 #26
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #27
pnwmom Sep 2015 #28
stevenleser Sep 2015 #29
HappyPlace Sep 2015 #30
stevenleser Sep 2015 #31
SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #41
beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #33
Garrett78 Sep 2015 #35
pnwmom Sep 2015 #37
Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #38

Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:14 PM

1. And 48 other states!

 

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Response to SonderWoman (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:18 PM

3. Only 48???

 

What, don't tell me, Hawaii and Alaska refusing to get on board again?

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:21 PM

7. 48 other, meaning 49. I'm guessing Bernie will take VT?

 

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Response to SonderWoman (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:43 PM

16. We'll let Clinton have Vermont.

 

We'll just let Vermont go....

But we want Florida and South Carolina and Virginia!

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:16 PM

2. Internet polls were the first sign President Ron Paul was going to win.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:20 PM

5. Don't make me pull up PBS Poll 435!

 

I think that was about Palin.

I don't know if it ever resolved.

Anyway, this might be an Internet poll, but with an N near 1,000,000 the results have some significance.

Conclusive, hell no, but not without value.

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:18 PM

4. Oh my!



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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:21 PM

6. In the primary. She'll lose it in the general election.

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Response to jfern (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:29 PM

11. 57% chance she won't

 

care to bet against that?

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:03 PM

24. 212% chance she loses the primary, never sees the general.

 

Now I want you to take the survey and tell us the results.

https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

Which candidate is more like you?

That's what the map shows, it's not about who participants selected, it's about agreement by candidates on issues with your POV.

Come on, do it!

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 07:10 AM

36. In which case we lose the general unless Biden runs.

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:21 PM

8. wowzers!

nearly all of illinois is sanders country

i knew from interaction he seemed to have a whole lot of support but this is a huge sample and bernie is rocking it!!

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:26 PM

10. I know, right? I just voted in it for the third time!

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:42 PM

15. Doubtful. You don't just "vote", it's a complex multi-question survey.

 

It gives feedback in a sophisticated way, showing how much your views align with all the candidates and with your local legislative districts.

I say that you didn't vote at all, and just want to dismiss this instrument.

For shame.

You should actually take the survey and then get back to us.

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #15)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 05:58 AM

32. Completely true. The "complex multi-question survey" is a vote. 4th time this morning.

For shame, LOL.

It's also a fact that "complex multi-question survey" has been spread throughout Bernie groups across the web.

The "complex multi-question survey" isn't bias, but the results are skewed.

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:31 PM

12. You like an opt-in internet poll question?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:36 PM

14. All polls are opt-in polls. I've never seen any other type.

 

I've never heard of a compulsory poll being used in politics.

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:02 PM

18. But there's a difference in assembling a balancing response group...

...and leaving your pool choice to whomever shows up at your website.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:15 PM

19. While it may not be truly representative of a cross section, it's still representative.

 

Regular phone polls are quite skewed toward the respondents' characteristics, despite efforts to adjust to these factors.

Phone polls are often done from lists of registered voters, and respondents tend to use land lines, don't screen calls, are willing to participate.

This online poll, with an N on the HRC v BS question nearly 1,000,000, samples politically engaged users of the internet.

I don't know how the respondents find the survey, but that would be interesting.

It never really asked me who I would vote for, it told me whom was most aligned with my views based on my answers. Bernie was first, Hillary was second, I don't remember the rest.

Thus, it asks what you think about a number of topics and then picks the candidate for you.

This reminds me of the Belief-O-Matic website survey that tells you how closely you align to different world religions. I'm a Theravada Buddhist by nature.

You should take the survey and see if you're closer to Senator Clinton or Senator Sanders.

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:07 AM

34. "While it may not be truly representative of a cross section" - THAT is the point.

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:35 PM

13. whoa.

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:59 PM

17. Woohoo

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 09:40 PM

20. Cool map. k&r

 

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #20)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 04:39 PM

42. 96% Bernie.

 

Thanks for the survey. Very interesting.

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:46 PM

21. NV seems to be leaning towards Bernie.

 

Interesting since it is one of the four early states and uses a caucus system.


With him being well ahead in NH and closing the gap in IO, Hillary might lose 3 of the first 4.


P.S. The map at the link is interactive. If you hover your cursor over a district it gives you the exact poll numbers.





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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:58 PM

22. Hmm, they still remember her in Arkansas?

I mean, that steppingstone was so long ago...

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #22)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:00 PM

23. The methodology isn't based on candidate choice, but on similar views...

 

If you take the test in the link it tells you who's views are similar to yours.

It appears that Hillary's are similar to people's in Arkansas.

https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #23)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:05 PM

25. ...



Sid

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:23 AM

39. My point was

Hillary's history has been using places and people as steppingstones to get to what she wanted.

This Goldwater Girl from Illinois was willing to move to Arkansas and pretend to act like a Southerner to get to be the first lady of the state, then do what she had to do to get to be FLOTUS, then act like a Northeasterner to get her own political career in the US Senate, then go to work for an 'enemy' as his Secretary of State to burnish her foreign policy credentials.

It seems she'll do whatever it takes to get that power, no matter who she has to pretend to like, or what crap she has to put up with to not slide off that steppingstone. I would imagine that the people of Arkansas are feeling pretty used by her at this point.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #39)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:29 PM

40. It's all very interesting, and I don't disagree.

 

When I posted this I assumed it was a simple poll, "who would you vote for?" questions.

But it never asks. Instead, it asks how you feel about different issues and then matches you up with all the candidates by % agreement.

To me, that makes it more valid than a simple "who do you like" poll which would give greater strength to mere name recognition.

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:13 PM

26. A self-selected internet poll is worth the paper it's written on.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #26)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:17 PM

27. One million participants, is it totally worthless?

 

I don't think so.

First, it's not like a fox news binary poll, you have to take a survey and then it just tells you which candidate most agrees with your answers.

That it takes time to complete is significant.

https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

Does it reflect regional differences with as much accuracy as a traditional phone poll of, say, 1,000 likely voters?

I think it does.

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:19 PM

28. As a poll, it's worthless. You could have ten times that number and it still wouldn't

be a scientifically valid poll that would reflect the views of hundreds of millions of Americans.

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:55 PM

29. Do you really not understand how legitimate and accurate polls work? nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #29)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:03 AM

30. Well, this is not a poll. This is a voluntary survey. Did you take it?

 

Or are you just reacting to the results of the survey.

If you take the survey, you might find that Sanders agrees with you more than Clinton does.

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #30)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:09 AM

31. You argued its worth something. Again, do you not understand how legitimate polling works? nt

 

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #27)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:44 PM

41. One of the best posts I can imagine on this topic.

 

Tells a whole lot about why people think what they do, math and science be damned.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #26)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:02 AM

33. Do you lecture everyone when they post polls favourable to their candidate or are we special?

You sure do spend an awful lot of time helping HC supporters rain on Bernie's parade for someone who hasn't chosen a candidate.


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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 06:48 AM

35. Many polls show the same.

Link: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/more-and-more-americans-agree-bernie-sanders-and-not-just-those-who-identify-left

But the (s)election process isn't really about issues. It's about money and perception.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #35)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:04 AM

37. But the sad fact is, it's very very common for people to vote against their self-interest

and for people who hold positions at variance with theirs.

Most people seem to vote with their guts, rather than their brains. That's why they're flocking to Trump.

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Response to HappyPlace (Original post)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:08 AM

38. Interesting poll. I come out 96% Bernie and 92% Green.

 

And, it looks like Bernie is doing very well in my state of Washington.

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